To think people on benefits can’t win

[Flamingosareflummoxed]

I’ve heard so many people this week, in real life, moaning about people on benefits. I get it that we are all struggling. The cost of living is crippling.
But every week there are posts on here from women who were in 70K per year HR positions who are finding it difficult to get interviews for MW jobs.
There are no jobs.
The few jobs that there are will be flooded with applications, why would recruiters chose someone who has been unemployed for years?
Plus all those with long term disabilities who need reasonable adjustments.
Its like people want to bash people knowing there is no real alternative.

Plenty of jobs available in the care sector

Care work... looking after very vulnerable people, should not be the last resort for people wanting a job. If you can do it, then fine. But it takes a particular sort of person.

People do this for visas, I don’t think it’s necessarily their life’s calling either.

I wouldn’t say it’s a majority at all. And if they get those benefits surely they need them?

Someone posted the actual figures upthread. It is not a majority on UC that also claim DLA/PIP at all.
As usual, people get their "facts" from the likes of the Daily Mail etc.

Yes I applied for TA work starting September, hoping for an interview at least.

This 100%

And there will be. Don’t remember reading they’d introduce them all in one go?

A pilot scheme irons out wrinkles doesn’t it, nothing to say it wouldn’t have gone ahead, but how and what needs looking at before a full scale roll out, is the point of the pilot scheme.

they’ve made no indication they won’t roll it out fully, more schools being added all the time. Honestly not sure what you’re saying? You’d rather they didn’t do it at all, or if they couldn’t do them all on day 1, they shouldn’t have bothered at all?

Absolutely this. I'm caring for an elderly parent atm, who also has carers, and tbh it makes my blood run cold how casually people toss care work out there as a suggestion. Not everyone can or should be in charge of a vulnerable person's care.

Yep, there are examples in the press about where people who should not be carers, were carers.

@BrendaSmall Care work is not for everyone. People thinking so is one of the reasons it is so poorly paid. It is a really undermined. Amazes me how people seem ok to have relatives cared for by ' just anyone'. I have worked in the care sector and it is really tough.Many skills are needed..it is not a 'default' job that just anyone could or should do.

I remember a post from someone who worked in care. She loved her job and had been doing it for years. She said the hardest part of her job was dealing with people sent to work with her who did not want to be there.
She ended up leaving care altogether.

It was me! I think it was around 27% or something of UC claimants also getting PIP. I don't think there are any adults left still getting DLA, I thought they'd all been migrated to PIP.

I know of 2 adults still on DLA. One in his late 50s (he has a degenerative condition), and the other in his early 60s (he has severe mental illness).

It is weird how little we value or rather dismiss those working with the very young ( nursery) and the elderly/ disabled,including the pittance paid.No mention of the myriad of skills actually required.

Or the risks they have to deal with.
I was in a cafe a while ago and there were two ladies talking about their time working in care. One was an HCA on a MH ward. She was nearly strangled to death on one occasion, and was punched and had her jaw broken on another.

@XenoBitch oh yes.that too. Also relatives not realising how few staff there are and how tough it can be.

It's the same with TA's too. They are the reason why my son can attend mainstream as he needs 2:1 TA support.

@Kirbert2 I was going to include TA's..there are a fair few other roles too aren't there? Makes me cross really.

The sentence has another element to it. It makes a useful point. More people than jobs.

PP is nuts. Do they actually think that a job seeker has 700k jobs available to them?

MN will always be full of people who live in areas with lots of CC, wraparound at school and lots of holiday clubs. This is not true everywhere.

Retail jobs increasingly expect you to be flexible/available which is impossible with CC.

Care work is not suitable for all, yes there are positions but I think it’s bad it’s just suggested for everyone like it doesn’t require some skill/personal attributes.

Im a carer, I’d love to work, I have yet to find a flexible part time job, which fits around my timings and not the works.

I know 3 separate people taking the piss out of PIP/LCWRA for mental health reasons, when they could work if they had to but are not being pushed to. And all getting mobility cars and yes they are free because they are paid out of benefits provided by the taxpayer.

these people have also bragged to me about getting:

• free tickets and outings
• nof having to pay council tax
• severe disability premium (for stable BPD??)
• Free opticians
• free dentistry
• free prescriptions

How can people not see how wrong this all is?

Getting a car on Motabilty for MH is really hard.
It is also not "free"

Tell that to my mate who got it for BPD easy as piss. Sorry but you are naive.

And yes its free because she is not working to pay for it!! It comes put of her motability pip element PAID FOR BY THE TAXPAYER.