Where to go when you have a problem with your manager?

[dinoworld]

When you exhaust everything? Grievance - wasn't withheld, appealed, same. People who report into that person don't like their management.

What happens then?

You either are quiet and wait for them to leave or you leave.

What if that person doesn't leave? .

Manager here. Depends what the problem is and the grievance you raised. Can you be a bit more specific at all?

About the management and expectations of the job etc.

I don't know how specific I can be?

What if your manager (that person) doesn’t leave?

So you’ve raised a grievance about their management style and the expectations of the job? And your grievance has not been upheld.

As pp said, if you’ve exhausted the grievance route, you can either raise different grievances or learn to live with it. Or leave yourself.

Are you in a union?

Union isn't recognised by the company. We aren't unionised

I wish I could elaborate but I don't want it online, shame can't delete posts :(

Not enough info.

If your personal grievance / appeal wasn’t upheld, wouldn’t raise the same issues again.

Would try not to engage with others’ grievances unless invited to be interviewed as a witness or something.

If manager’s current conduct affecting you is terrible and clearly against your organisation’s policies and you have strong evidence you could bring that up with their manager.

not that hard to make it anonymous.

I think you need to get a copy of the complaints/grievance policy for your workplace and check you've fully exhausted the process. If you are satisfied that you have exhausted the process (including appeals if applicable) even if you are not satisfied with the resolution itself then there's really nothing more you can do.

At that point I'd be looking to change job.

Is it possible that the grievance against the manager hasn't been upheld because the manager has been acting according to the smt expectations and company culture?

I'd also get a copy of your job description and contract and check that work being asked of you definitely falls within that although many companies include 'other duties as required ' to cover themselves.

Personally I'd be meeting with a careers advisor and looking to move job. A careers advisor would also help you identify if this issue is something common in the field or if you'd prefer a career move.

You decide whether you can continue working for them and if you can't you look for another job.

Just wondering why there is another meeting

Not your business.

Nothing to do with you. Certainly nothing to start a thread about! Bizarre.

We can see your original posts before edits. If you’re going to keep retrospectively editing things, the thread is going to be even more pointless than it already is.

Yes it is to do with me. If I have an issue I want to know whAt ekSe can be done.

I don't think she's getting fairly treated and want to know how to support her.

She's been called into a meeting and is crying her eyes out. They won't tell her what it's about.

Thanks. We had careers advisors in school but not sure how an employed adult would fine one?

Why? You said it was another person who was now in a meeting for 90 mins with HR etc.

It’s nothing to do with you. Unless you are the person they raised the grievance about - and you think there’s another one coming.

lots and lots of lovely interviews for lovely other jobs

Jeeeez stop editing posts when people are replying!!!

There won't be another one, would there?

If this is a colleague you’re friends with be kind to her but don’t pry or get embroiled - that won’t help anyone.

@dinoworldIf you’ve been told your complaint has no basis you accept it likely has no basis.

if you don’t like or are unwilling to accept that outcome you leave.

Similarly if you don’t like the job (the “expectations” of it as you say), you leave.

No one is forcing you to stay. You’re (presumably) an adult so have your own free will to do a job or not.

It’s not rocket science.

Family by marriage. Trying not to get involved but it's family.