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To wonder why people choose to live in London?

433 replies

Cantbloodyrememberthenameonthread · Today 09:36

I always wonder. And reading a recent thread prompted me to ask the question. Why do people do it by choice? People complain about the house prices (rightly), ulez, nursery fees, cost of everything being more expensive, commutes, tubes etc.

if you’re not absolutely tied to London for work or health or I guess family. Why do you choose to live there when there are so many cheaper easier lifestyle options in the country?

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GlamDress · Today 17:39

Dery · Today 12:55

I'm very urban. I grew up in the Midlands but both my parents were Londoners so I grew up visiting grandparents here. My sister and I both just assumed we would move to London after graduating from university in the early 1990s and we did. It's not everyone's cup of tea, at all, and I understand that but I love it here, as does my DH as do our young adult DCs; there is so much to see and do; it is actually very green; wonderfully diverse and multi-cultural (which I also grew up with in my Midlands city and I miss that when it's not there) and I personally find Londoners friendly and good humoured, though I do see it all looks very impersonal when everyone is just dashing from home to work etc. That said, I always quote one of my oldest friends (also now a long-time resident of London) who said years ago "I love living in London and I love leaving London". So I love visiting other places - I think everywhere has its attractions - and I love coming home.

It's odd how angry some posters seem to be getting that people might choose to live in London and compliment London. We're not saying everyone should want to live here. Ultimately, this is where life landed me over 30 years ago and it suits me very well. But it's not for everyone. And I completely get that there are lots of places to love in the UK (indeed, throughout the world).

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It's odd how angry some posters seem to be getting that people might choose to live in London and compliment LondonWe're not saying everyone should want to live here.

I know! This isn’t an advert or recruitment drive. Nobody has to move here! In fact, it would keep house prices down if they didn’t ;-) It’s just answering the OP why we love it. It’s a weird inverse snobbery thing I think maybe?

GlamDress · Today 17:46

TiredBeans · Today 16:24

If you’re wholly reliant on benefits, life isn’t much fun anywhere in the UK right now, I imagine. Cost of living is high, housing stock is poor. I’d still rather be in London!

I work in the public sector. I have a stab of envy when I visit people in their social housing in great locations, like a mansion block in Covent Garden!

YooBlue · Today 17:55

I absolutely love living in London, and could now move wherever I like. Nope, staying put!

Housing is very expensive, but lots of things are cheaper. Bus fares, for example. And I would hate having to be as car reliant as people are away from a fantastic linked up public transport system.

Most of the reasons I love living here have been mentioned by other posters. I love what London has to offer - and make constant use of it - and I love visiting other parts of the country too, including rural, coastal, Northern etc etc - all great for their own USP. But I love living here and visiting elsewhere.

The thing is I can completely understand why many people prefer quieter, rural, coastal etc areas...why do many non-London-dwellers seem to have a constant obsession with sneering at or criticising London? Or at least being incredulous that people would actually choose to live here?

ccccccccc · Today 18:08

I'm so glad that we brought our DC up in London, I would have hated to have lived rurally and had to be the family taxi for school, evenings and weekends. Even country towns don't have the transport system that we have here,

YooBlue · Today 18:11

Jeeez, why do all these people who don't live in London care so much that we do? Why do you care so much that we happen to be happy to live in London rather than Wolverhampton or Nottingham or Manchester or Llangollen or Stamford or Aylsham or in the middle of the N York Moors?

If I lived in Wakefield and said I loved the Gallery with its Barbara Hepworth (yes...I travelled to see it!) and rhubarb, would everyone in London be going 'we have galleries too, you know, and can easily buy rhubarb here, it doesn't spontaneously dissolve South of Watford gap'

If you are happy where you live, fantastic! If I am happy where I live, also fantastic!

ShetlandishMum · Today 18:15

If I could afford London I would love to live in London.
We relocated to a nordic capital and love it.

FastnetLundyRockall · Today 18:37

I had to leave London after 40 years and I miss it hugely. I really miss Londoners and how utterly normal they are blocking everyone out on the tube but will still help with prams, multiculturalism, London fashion (where I am the look is very… polished and uniform ) my neighbours, the sheer diversity of people in my old neighbourhood, the restaurants (omg the restaurants and the food of the world), the newest music and arts, Soho and all my fab night out with friends there, Wapping and the Isle of Dogs, Fortnums, the Barbican, the BFi, the Curzon cinema choice, the west end, Brick Lane, Columbia Road, the canals, the parks, the fabulous dates and memories, the feeling of history of walking in Dickens footsteps, the events. I’ve never felt unsafe in London and it’s one of world’s great cities. I don’t like to make sweeping statements much but really - no other uk city compares.

BlackRowan · Today 18:45

Thechaseison71 · Today 13:28

I know where it is thanks. But it can hardly be called a nice area.

Theatre has been in Stratford for years .

And do you think many of the people in Plaistow can afford all these bars and theatre etc. My ex came from their. Ok they may have souped up Stratford a bit but the tower blocks in boundary Rd area aren't the best

New Sadler’s Wells East has opened only very recently. You just don’t know what you are talking about.

and museums are FREE. London has hundreds of free museums and free other events, all accessible from East London (I used to live in Mile End)

Thechaseison71 · Today 19:38

ConstanzeMozart · Today 16:49

These are only examples. But there are single parents on UC everywhere. I didn't only talk about menus (and in fact I said nothing about 'set menus at £25/30 a head' Confused). I mentioned that there are many cheaper food options.
My main point about London is the variety/choice/buzz. There are more and, sometimes, better galleries and museums; in smaller places, IME, galleries and museums are sometimes open only a few days a week. Not to mention shops, cafes etc. It's not so convenient and there's that depressing 'Sunday in the 70s' vibe when everything is shut and there's hardly anyone around.
Again IME, people who move out of London and say they'll keep coming in for socialising and entertainment etc don't really.
And personally (and I'm clearly not alone) I value being able to walk within about 15 minutes to, not just one or a narrow selection of corner shops, cafes etc, but to a proper high street with variety and high-quality food and drinks, not to mention being able to just pop to a post office/GP practice and get a bus to a hospital if necessary etc.

Well I can walk to all those things also and not be in London . High street has many restaurants, pubs, wine bar, cocktail bar, cafes and coffee shops as well as post office , health centre etc. Even a small museum lol.

In fact in London I didn't live 15 mins walk to a " high st"

And I'm not " rural" now @GlamDress . I live in a town with 35000 people. Although it has meadows woodlands and a lovely park. Although me are missing a McDonald's thankfully

Thechaseison71 · Today 19:42

BlackRowan · Today 18:45

New Sadler’s Wells East has opened only very recently. You just don’t know what you are talking about.

and museums are FREE. London has hundreds of free museums and free other events, all accessible from East London (I used to live in Mile End)

It may well of done but there's the theatre royal which was there from the 1800s. Long enough ago for you?

Poppy123xyz · Today 19:46

Theatres, concerts of all kinds, world class museums and exhibitions , pub & club nights for every niche intetest, food & vintage markets, fantastic parks. All available evrry day year tound, no waiting for something to tour. Aitports with the most connections....

Crikeyalmighty · Today 19:46

@wordler when I used to leave in st Margaret’s ( east Twickenham) I used to go west end about 4 times a year , rest of time I pottered around Richmond, Kingston, Teddington, Chiswick , occasionally got overground over to Hampstead, Camden, upper st etc I didn’t need to go central or city for work so only went to those areas on odd occasions, like might pop to portobello market or Spitalfields etc

Thechaseison71 · Today 19:57

Poppy123xyz · Today 19:46

Theatres, concerts of all kinds, world class museums and exhibitions , pub & club nights for every niche intetest, food & vintage markets, fantastic parks. All available evrry day year tound, no waiting for something to tour. Aitports with the most connections....

Only actually one airport actually in London isn't there?

AAAAYY · Today 19:58

This is the thing, most areas of London there are lots of things to do locally but also the option to easily get into town without much hassle.

My SIL keeps telling me she finds London too busy but she only ever goes to Oxford Street and Covent Garden!

Thechaseison71 · Today 19:59

Crikeyalmighty · Today 19:46

@wordler when I used to leave in st Margaret’s ( east Twickenham) I used to go west end about 4 times a year , rest of time I pottered around Richmond, Kingston, Teddington, Chiswick , occasionally got overground over to Hampstead, Camden, upper st etc I didn’t need to go central or city for work so only went to those areas on odd occasions, like might pop to portobello market or Spitalfields etc

Yeah I used to have a friend in walthamstow. She went into central London about once every 2 years

JohnTheRevelator · Today 20:02

MonsterBoo · Today 09:40

I won’t be popular for this but I’m in social housing so that’s covered 🤷‍♀️ and I don’t drive I use the bus to go everywhere and the hopper fare makes that nice and cheap.

How on earth can you be so brave as to come on Mumsnet and admit that not only do you live in social housing,you also don't drive?! 2 of the biggest crimes going on Mumsnet! I know because I also live in social housing and don't drive, because in London,you're never far from a convenient bus!

Forestflowers · Today 20:08

Cantbloodyrememberthenameonthread · Today 09:36

I always wonder. And reading a recent thread prompted me to ask the question. Why do people do it by choice? People complain about the house prices (rightly), ulez, nursery fees, cost of everything being more expensive, commutes, tubes etc.

if you’re not absolutely tied to London for work or health or I guess family. Why do you choose to live there when there are so many cheaper easier lifestyle options in the country?

Why does anyone like anything?

I live rurally in the SW and love it. I love the sea air, I love the quiet, I love the beaches and the woods. But I have no Uber, the entertainment can be fairly limited, it’s very homogenous and everyone knows each others business.

London doesn’t appeal to me at all but I dare say my home wouldn’t appeal to Londoners.

ZenNudist · Today 20:10

Have you been to London? I am from Manchester and love it, wouldn't move but like to visit London. I'm there for work a lot. There's a great vibe out on the streets in the summer. All the bars are heaving whenever I go in after work. Manchester can be dead midweek now.

They have much better cultural scene, pretty parks, shops, public transport, jobs pay much more, range of jobs available are better and promotion opportunities are better. Some government and media jobs need to be in London.

To do the top roles in my Firm (accountant) I'd have to be in London all the time, we have partners that live there in the week then commute to their mansion in the North or wherever at weekends.

I'm currently looking at multiple theatre trips with friends to London shows you can't get around the country. You can't go to the Tate Modern or the British Museum or the Tower of London in Manchester.

On the down side to enjoy London you need to have pots of cash and it's great if you're rich. If I win the lottery I'd get a London flat.

SuperGinger · Today 20:13

The place isn't heaving with curtain twitchers but generally everywhere I've lived in London, I've had good neighbours. Just this evening one offered me some wine. There is a huge amount of diversity, it has incredible green spaces for a large city, top schools private and state. You never need to go further than five minutes to buy a decent coffee and can nip into your local corner shop at the drop of a hat if you run out of hummus at 10pm , getting around is easy because there are lots of options. My friends live here, my job is here, I love my house.

SGBK4862 · Today 20:19

I lived in London from toddler to 10 years old and it stayed in my heart. Moved back for my first professional job in my 20s and been here ever since (40 years). I wouldn't live anywhere else, London has everything. Also enjoy beautiful countryside but only for holidays or days out. I lived in a smaller city as a teen and aways felt the lure of the bright lights of London and felt 'trapped' in a small place.

chargingdock · Today 20:36

@ZenNudist Im surprised about Manchester being dead midweek as it’s the youngest city.

Interestingly London is the only major city that’s getting older.

ButterYellowFlowers · Today 20:37

Thechaseison71 · Today 19:57

Only actually one airport actually in London isn't there?

Yes but you can get to the other 3 via the tube so they count as London

Thechaseison71 · Today 20:38

ButterYellowFlowers · Today 20:37

Yes but you can get to the other 3 via the tube so they count as London

What other 3? I thought was only Heathrow had a tube station

godmum56 · Today 20:39

FairKoala · Today 13:19

Because village life centred around the church or the pub.(I don’t drink). And when I mentioned I wasn’t a Christian I could see the looks. I was regarded with suspicion.
I don’t think anyone spoke to me for years.

But that is not my experience and I have lived in several rural areas. I am not (and never have been) a churchgoer. I am not disbelieving or discounting your experience but I can assure you its not typical.

chargingdock · Today 20:40

ButterYellowFlowers · Today 20:37

Yes but you can get to the other 3 via the tube so they count as London

Does that mean parts of Buckinghamshire are in London?!

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