Reform- KCC & the Lord's Prayer

[Growingaseed]

To think this is a huge waste of time?

Row over Lord's Prayer proposal for Reform-led council https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/crepqgy48djo

Reform have put forward a proposal for the Lord's Prayer and national anthem to be sung/recited at its meetings.

At a time when the council is £700m in debt and raised Council Tax by almost 4% last year. How on earth could any business justify singing songs and reciting prayers at the start of meetings. Let alone the cost of having a vote on such a pointless matter.

Thats before getting into the fact that less than 2% of people in Kent go to church on a Sunday.

There's a whole multitude of other reasons this isn't appropriate but I don't think reform will care about those...

We've had a Reform council for the last year. Potholes are worse than ever but they have done a lot of posturing around flags, spent a lot of money on consultants and complained a lot about DEI. It's great!

Reform indulging in culture wars instead doing actual work!😱

Fucking wasters.

Perhaps they are hoping that, if they pray hard enough, God will fix the potholes?

How is singing and saying prayers going to affect the 700milloon council debt? If people want to pray and sing a hymn, why not?
Anyone not wishing to participate can stay quiet.
Would the moaning be quite so loud if it was any other political party or religion?

Absolutely. Council meetings are for council business. No need for any religious nonsense or nationalism dressed up as patriotism.

And yet it always has … almost as if it’s inherently political.

I think it could indicate that they know what they can actually fix.

I doubt any other party would be so bloody stupid as to think singing and praying is the way to fix things.

If the Reform members want to pray and sing the National Anthem in their own meetings before council and committee meetings, that's up to them.

But it is an important point of democratic principle that religious observance and worship should not be part of official council proceedings.

I am a secular atheist lefty - and I agree with the PP about not flying ideological flags etc - not councils, not the police. Their principles, policies and practices regarding equalities of all kinds should be explicit within their accountable duties. That's it.

Reform UK are the DUP now.🤣🤣🤣

@YooBlue “But it is an important point of democratic principle that religious observance and worship should not be part of official council proceedings”

Is it? Where are you getting that idea from?!

How very MAGA of them.

Wonder if this will be before or after they hire "political advisors" from the public purse like they did in Warwickshire. Absolute Charlatans.

Sorry I am just catching up on all these.

It's wild isn't it! If I suggested at work we sing the national anthem before meetings people would think I'm insane. I would almost expect something like that if you lived in communist china or North Korea.

It's embarrassing that this is actually a real thing. I feel so sorry for all the hard working people working in the council that's having to debate this.

Every sitting in the House of Commons and House of Lords starts with prayers !

https://www.parliament.uk/about/how/business/prayers/

As an active Christian I am wary of this gesture. The House of Commons starts with prayer I believe but that is an old and long established tradition. Which makes it different.

Kent has an appallingly bad record on support for children and adults with SEN and disabilities. So somehow I don't think Christian values are getting too much of a look-in.

Thank you for the world so sweet,
Thank you for the food we eat.
Thank you for the birds that sing,
Thank you God for everything.

About the level of the average LA Councillor.

The only question that matters.

I would love to know just how long each and every Reform councillor spends in going to church every week.

No-one at KCC 'took the knee' 🤣

This plan by Reform really is fiddling while Rome burns.

Yes, they know they can 'fix' the lack of songs at the beginning of meetings about pot holes, but not the pot holes themselves. Perhaps they should have run on that manifesto? "We can't solve the problems, but we promise to pray about them, because we're the realistic party"