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To wonder whether, as per this claim, Annabel was really seen as a 'yuppie' name in the 80s?

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Giselle374 · 04/05/2026 00:57

I read Lady Colin Campbell's book a while ago about Harry & Meghan. A lot of the claims seemed ridiculous- they can certainly be criticised but the book went beyond reasonable. Anyway, one of the points I found odd was that Campbell claimed naming rules have always been very strict for royals, and mentioned an earlier name choice for Beatrice being vetoed.
I googled and found this choice was Annabel, which the Queen apparently vetoed for being 'too yuppie'. Was it really seen that way in the 80s or was this just some eccentricity of hers? I was born early 2000s and knew quite a few Annabels and Isabel/Isabellas, also one Arabella. It just seemed like a classic name, hardly one to complain about.
Not a traditional royal one : but then she was OK with Zara.

(Not the main point, but while I think they were wrong to choose Lilibet, I didn't agree with Campbell's argument that the Annabel veto meant the Queen remained just as strict in the 2010s. She clearly wasn't if she allowed Savannah, Sienna and Mia, all nice names but arguably more non traditional than Annabel)

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CurlewKate · 05/05/2026 12:42

QuintadosMalvados · 05/05/2026 08:30

I agree. Would your typical Sloane have gone to university though?
Let's be honest here, the massive university expansion business has over inflated degrees.
I'm just imagining that it was not a given then that a woman of that background would have gone to university given the era?

Loads of Sloanes-men and women- went to University. They were called Yahs at mine.

Genevieva · 05/05/2026 13:23

CurlewKate · 05/05/2026 12:42

Loads of Sloanes-men and women- went to University. They were called Yahs at mine.

I’m a bit too young for the Sloane rangers, but we called them Rahs or thr pink pashmina brigade. There were no Annabels that I remember. That name is a generation older. They were more likely to be called Cordelia and Hugo.

pontefractals · 05/05/2026 13:29

I seem to remember cordon bleu cooking courses being a popular Sloane choice after A Levels, as an alternative to university.

GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing · 05/05/2026 13:32

Annabelle was very yuppie. As was Arrabelle/a.

Annabel spelt this more classically English way perhaps slightly better?

I’ve never heard of Isobel/ Isabelle/ Isabella being seen as yuppie though.

RitaIncognita · 05/05/2026 14:41

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 05/05/2026 08:24

Yes, I know, that was my point. His name was Albert but when he became king he chose to be King Edward, not King Albert.

His full name was Albert Edward (named for his father and his grandfather Prince Edward Duke of Kent), and Queen Victoria's wish and intention was that he would rule as King Albert or possibly as King Albert Edward. But when he ascended to the throne, he chose the regnal name Edward.

MargoLivebetter · 05/05/2026 14:54

Annabel wasn't a yuppie name in the early 80s, it was a sloane ranger name. Yuppies were the new urban professionals, some of them sounded sloaney but mostly they were the upwardly mobile from a wide range of backgrounds.

Sloanes were already upper class or upper middle class and had names like Annabel, Arrabella, Minty (Araminta), Camilla, Diana, Henrietta, Tory (Victoria) etc.

IbizaToTheNorfolkBroads · 05/05/2026 15:48

CurlewKate · 05/05/2026 12:42

Loads of Sloanes-men and women- went to University. They were called Yahs at mine.

Peak Sloane was well before the massive expansion of universities.

Delphiniumandlupins · 05/05/2026 16:07

HoppityBun · 05/05/2026 08:00

Don’t understand the “yet” here. Annabel Elliott was born in ‘48. Perhaps the OP is too young f to have heard of Annabel’s nightclub in Mayfair. Definitely for the upper crust and named after James Goldsmith’s wife Lady Annabel, born Annabel Vane-Tempest-Stewart in ‘49. Grand enough for you?

Queen Camilla still sounds odd to me, though.

I agree Queen Camilla sounds odd. I think Queen Diana would have sounded strange too, as will Queen Kate (although Queen Catherine is OK).

HappenstanceMarmite · 05/05/2026 18:56

MargoLivebetter · 05/05/2026 14:54

Annabel wasn't a yuppie name in the early 80s, it was a sloane ranger name. Yuppies were the new urban professionals, some of them sounded sloaney but mostly they were the upwardly mobile from a wide range of backgrounds.

Sloanes were already upper class or upper middle class and had names like Annabel, Arrabella, Minty (Araminta), Camilla, Diana, Henrietta, Tory (Victoria) etc.

100% agree. In point of fact, wouldn’t the Princess of Wales’ family have been considered Yuppie with their occupation? Deffo not Sloane.

Giselle374 · 05/05/2026 19:00

mathanxiety · 05/05/2026 03:02

I suspect that is exactly why.

Yes, that would make sense...

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Darrara · 05/05/2026 19:06

HappenstanceMarmite · 05/05/2026 18:56

100% agree. In point of fact, wouldn’t the Princess of Wales’ family have been considered Yuppie with their occupation? Deffo not Sloane.

No, not really. Not young or urban enough.

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