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To think the weekend weather forecasts are deliberately pessimistic atm to reduce car travel?

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PicaK · 03/05/2026 20:27

I know, I know it's a ridiculous conspiracy theory....
But it's been lovely this weekend despite dreadful weather forecasts all week. And it was like that the other weekend.
Convinced it's a plot to stop us planning weekend trips and conserve fuel.

Anyway delightfully not busy at West Midlands Safari Park today so it has my full approval 😂

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PicaK · 04/05/2026 07:59

Forestfire12345 · 03/05/2026 23:49

So....how would they do this though?.Logistically...😂😎Do they all text each other? Do they argue about it? Who are they? Who is Q in all this ?! Why would they agree to it at all?

It's just not plausible .
Weather accurate to the hour here, tapping on my Google Android widget thing .

I also pondered on the idea of some bloke called Dave single handedly solving the fuel crisis by massaging the results a few points here and there...

Also - yeah the move away from Met Office was dreadful. Saved money I imagine but not accurate at all.

Interesting about big leisure places protesting - I didn't know that.

I have a fence to paint so hoping for a long sunny weekend soon. And sunshine for all those who got rain this weekend.

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Wolfiefan · 04/05/2026 08:00

Absolutely no need to lie about the forecast to stop people driving. The fuel prices curtail unnecessary journeys quite enough.

InterestedDad37 · 04/05/2026 08:11

HangingOver · 03/05/2026 22:07

I think they said on the radio the 40% thing is they take a measurement of land, I can't remember how much but say 10 square miles... And the % is what % of the area will have rain at that time.

The various weather organisations/apps take pains to point out that this is in 'urban myth' territory. It's simply a % chance for your area. So 20% means what it says (and not that 20% of the area will definitely get rained on)
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Btc76 · 04/05/2026 08:46

There odd actually something in this. Nate Silver’s book ‘The Signal and The Noise’ has a whole chapter on the phenomena of weather forecasting and introduced the interesting idea (at least to me) of systematic bias. I have asked Claude to summarise this: apologies if this reads like AI slop but I think it does relate to this discussion and I haven’t got an hour to remember and summarise it myself.

Here is what Claude said:

In The Signal and the Noise, Nate Silver examines a striking and counterintuitive finding about the accuracy of weather forecasts: they are systematically biased, and the direction of that bias depends on who is doing the forecasting and for whom.

The core finding

Commercial weather forecasters — particularly those serving the general public, such as television meteorologists — tend to exhibit a wet bias: they overpredict the probability of rain relative to what the actual frequency of rainfall warrants. If a forecaster says there is a 70% chance of rain, it should rain on roughly 70% of such occasions. In practice, it rains considerably less often than commercial forecasters predict.

Why the wet bias exists

Silver's explanation is essentially one of asymmetric loss functions — a concept borrowed from decision theory. The consequences of a false negative (failing to warn of rain that arrives) are experienced as considerably worse, from the audience's perspective, than a false positive (predicting rain that does not materialise). A person who is unexpectedly caught in a downpour is far more aggrieved than one who carries an umbrella unnecessarily. Forecasters, being attuned to their audiences' reactions, respond rationally to this asymmetry by shading their predictions toward rain. There is also a reputational element: a forecaster blamed for ruining a picnic suffers more conspicuously than one who merely caused mild over-preparation.

The contrasting case: the National Weather Service

Silver notes that the National Weather Service (NWS), the US government's official forecasting body, is considerably better calibrated — closer to true probabilistic accuracy. Silver attributes this partly to the fact that the NWS is insulated from direct commercial pressure and audience sentiment. Its forecasters are evaluated against objective accuracy benchmarks rather than public approval.

The broader lesson

Silver uses this example to illustrate a theme running throughout the book: that incentives shape forecasts, often invisibly. A forecast is never purely a technical output; it is produced by a human or institution embedded in a set of relationships, pressures, and incentives that systematically pull predictions in particular directions. Understanding a forecast well requires understanding who made it, and why they might prefer to err in one direction rather than another. It is, in essence, a lesson in epistemic humility about what forecasts are actually measuring — and a warning against taking probabilistic statements at face value without interrogating the institutional context from which they emerge.

IbizaToTheNorfolkBroads · 04/05/2026 09:48

Forecast to be a bit drizzly here.
It actually p’eed it down all day yesterday and doing the same again today.

I use weather data for work, so know a little about it.
1- the Met Office are a government agency, and gov policy is to forecast the Realistic Worst Case Scenario. Not the best case, or most likely, so Met Office reports will likely be more pessimistic than others.

2- Weather forecasting is about looking at what something like 8 indicators or saying. In the past there was usually a strong trend eg: 6/8 indicators align to the same forecast, but this is increasingly not the case as climate changes and with urban sprawl a bit.

Bikenutz · 04/05/2026 09:55

It was a miserable day here yesterday, and it only started to brighten up at 5pm. Just as forecast. And yet everyone was in their cars when I went out yesterday morning.

My observation is that people drive around more on weekend days when the weather is so so. Gathering supplies to do DIY, getting shopping. Whereas when it’s nice, we are enjoying our gardens, out for walks, or doing those outside jobs that need doing!

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