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Marches should be all standing protests not marching through streets.

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ShockingBritain · 01/05/2026 09:21

The hate marches should be moved to standing protests only.

Hate marches linked to rise in antisemitism. Antisemitism is rife in the UK and in political parties). It's now deemed a national emergency with severe warning of a threat in next 6 months to Jewish community.

Easier to contain and control those present, that want to cause trouble or break the law.

Save millions policing, compared to moving protests, where officers are required along the route, and more planning involved.

People can still use their right to protest.

Will prevent marches going through areas (Jewish areas) which cause increased fear.

Easier to avoid the marchers if you aren't interested in the cause. Saves having to ensure screaming 'globalise the intifada', 'free Palestine' etc being shouted or screamed at you, as you attempt to pass.

The marches in the UK do not change the lives of ordinary people in Gaza.

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ShockingBritain · 01/05/2026 09:22

"Reports indicate a direct correlation between these protests and a rise in threats and abuse targeting Jewish communities."

https://committees.parliament.uk/writtenevidence/135727/html/

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Swiftie1878 · 01/05/2026 09:23

People have a right to protest peacefully in whatever manner they choose.
Thank goodness.

Hate marches shouldn’t be taking place at all, as they are, by definition, NOT peaceful.

Swiftie1878 · 01/05/2026 09:24

ShockingBritain · 01/05/2026 09:22

"Reports indicate a direct correlation between these protests and a rise in threats and abuse targeting Jewish communities."

https://committees.parliament.uk/writtenevidence/135727/html/

Not an independent report, unfortunately.

AngryHerring · 01/05/2026 09:24

you are allowed, OP, to spout nonsense like that because of the countless number of people who have gone on various marches over the centuries.

They certainly should be allowed to march. (if you are specifically talking about the gaza things in London? they need to stop now)

ShockingBritain · 01/05/2026 09:25

I genuinely cannot see how these weekly marches actually changed anything in Gaza.

However, they cause massive disruption here, costing millions to police (could be used to protect citizens here under threat) and have been linked to a rise in antisemitism here in the UK.

What good actually comes from the marches?

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Swiftie1878 · 01/05/2026 09:26

ShockingBritain · 01/05/2026 09:25

I genuinely cannot see how these weekly marches actually changed anything in Gaza.

However, they cause massive disruption here, costing millions to police (could be used to protect citizens here under threat) and have been linked to a rise in antisemitism here in the UK.

What good actually comes from the marches?

They focus politicians’ minds. The protesters wanted our government to stop supporting Israel.

Ablondiebutagoody · 01/05/2026 09:26

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ShockingBritain · 01/05/2026 09:27

AngryHerring · 01/05/2026 09:24

you are allowed, OP, to spout nonsense like that because of the countless number of people who have gone on various marches over the centuries.

They certainly should be allowed to march. (if you are specifically talking about the gaza things in London? they need to stop now)

I am talking about Gaza marches in particular for reasons stated above.

The right to protest should remain but no need to move through Jewish areas or run into businesses and people carrying out daily activities causing disruption (eg protesters shouting at people in McDonald's, how does that help Gaza).

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CoffeeCantata · 01/05/2026 09:30

Marches - OK, as long as they're not 'hate marches'.

Any mucking about with the street furniture or vandalism of buildings and monuments - definitely not OK.

Yes, we have right to protest but it has to be peaceful, non-threatening protest. Just walk with your banners and keep your aggression in check.

ShockingBritain · 01/05/2026 09:31

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I think mumsnet has got better at removing posts that are clearly antisemitic. Although, it is undeniable that many people don't believe antisemitism has increased or isn't important. Finally, the government are helping the Jewish people with additional police help.

There were recent threads on the Green Party and it's candidates who have posted antisemitism. I understand 2 candidates arrested for antisemitism.

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CoffeeCantata · 01/05/2026 09:31

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I really hope things have now come to a head and notice will be taken of how things are going.

ShockingBritain · 01/05/2026 09:34

Swiftie1878 · 01/05/2026 09:26

They focus politicians’ minds. The protesters wanted our government to stop supporting Israel.

Did they? Didn't feel like that when attempting to walk past screaming protesters in London. Some of the chanting clearly encouraged direct action ('globalise the intifada').

Did the marches make any difference to the people in Gaza? The UK has little say over matters in the middle east.

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SunnyAfternoonToday · 01/05/2026 09:34

ShockingBritain · 01/05/2026 09:25

I genuinely cannot see how these weekly marches actually changed anything in Gaza.

However, they cause massive disruption here, costing millions to police (could be used to protect citizens here under threat) and have been linked to a rise in antisemitism here in the UK.

What good actually comes from the marches?

They haven't changed a single thing in Gaza. The constant accounts of anti semitic attacks that the British Jewish community suffer are real. Figures from the Home Office for the year ending March 2025 show that Jewish people are almost ten times more likely than Muslims to be victims of religious hate crimes. There were 106 religious hate crimes per 10,000 of the population targeted at Jewish people, compared with 12 per 10,000 of the population targeting Muslims.

ShockingBritain · 01/05/2026 09:37

SunnyAfternoonToday · 01/05/2026 09:34

They haven't changed a single thing in Gaza. The constant accounts of anti semitic attacks that the British Jewish community suffer are real. Figures from the Home Office for the year ending March 2025 show that Jewish people are almost ten times more likely than Muslims to be victims of religious hate crimes. There were 106 religious hate crimes per 10,000 of the population targeted at Jewish people, compared with 12 per 10,000 of the population targeting Muslims.

Exactly my point. They don't help the people of Gaza but do increase hatred against innocent Jewish people here. I realise some marchers think they are 'doing something' but what they are doing is increasing hatred, and the potential for mentally unwell individuals here to think they need to 'do something'. Globalise the intifada, take action, has repercussions here.

Jewish people here aren't responsible for Gaza.

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SunnyAfternoonToday · 01/05/2026 09:39

ShockingBritain · 01/05/2026 09:31

I think mumsnet has got better at removing posts that are clearly antisemitic. Although, it is undeniable that many people don't believe antisemitism has increased or isn't important. Finally, the government are helping the Jewish people with additional police help.

There were recent threads on the Green Party and it's candidates who have posted antisemitism. I understand 2 candidates arrested for antisemitism.

What is needed urgently to prevent a new generation from being inundated with anti Jewish rhetoric and misinformation by educating children in school and students at university about Jewish history especially about British Jews and what they have given through being doctors, teachers, lawyers etc in Britain since the 17th century. It may be too late to reeducate 16 - 23 year olds, but I hope not.

Ablondiebutagoody · 01/05/2026 09:40

ShockingBritain · 01/05/2026 09:31

I think mumsnet has got better at removing posts that are clearly antisemitic. Although, it is undeniable that many people don't believe antisemitism has increased or isn't important. Finally, the government are helping the Jewish people with additional police help.

There were recent threads on the Green Party and it's candidates who have posted antisemitism. I understand 2 candidates arrested for antisemitism.

The Greens are a disgrace. It's interesting that the police only made the arrests after the Golders Green attack, despite knowing about the offences for a while. Police needed to look like they take this stuff seriously, even though they don't.

Polanski thinks that the police were heavy handed when arresting the knife attacker. He is a clown.

ShockingBritain · 01/05/2026 09:43

SunnyAfternoonToday · 01/05/2026 09:39

What is needed urgently to prevent a new generation from being inundated with anti Jewish rhetoric and misinformation by educating children in school and students at university about Jewish history especially about British Jews and what they have given through being doctors, teachers, lawyers etc in Britain since the 17th century. It may be too late to reeducate 16 - 23 year olds, but I hope not.

I agree education is needed. I think there are too many soundbites. Do people actually know the history of the middle east. The Palestinian area that is now Jordan seems ok and no one bothers with that. I won't go into detail here but so much misinformation around.

Blaming Jewish people here for what happens in the middle east is ridiculous.

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ShockingBritain · 01/05/2026 09:49

Swiftie1878 · 01/05/2026 09:24

Not an independent report, unfortunately.

Parliament report? Various organisations agree with the link.

"Pro-Palestinian protests and marches in the UK have been linked by government officials, police, and community groups to a surge in antisemitic incidents, with many describing these events as "hate marches"."

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PrizedPickledPopcorn · 01/05/2026 09:51

I think standing still is a good idea.

It doesn’t impinge of free speech, allows people to express their concern. Doesn’t target other communities. Much easier to police.

JHound · 01/05/2026 09:51

ShockingBritain · 01/05/2026 09:21

The hate marches should be moved to standing protests only.

Hate marches linked to rise in antisemitism. Antisemitism is rife in the UK and in political parties). It's now deemed a national emergency with severe warning of a threat in next 6 months to Jewish community.

Easier to contain and control those present, that want to cause trouble or break the law.

Save millions policing, compared to moving protests, where officers are required along the route, and more planning involved.

People can still use their right to protest.

Will prevent marches going through areas (Jewish areas) which cause increased fear.

Easier to avoid the marchers if you aren't interested in the cause. Saves having to ensure screaming 'globalise the intifada', 'free Palestine' etc being shouted or screamed at you, as you attempt to pass.

The marches in the UK do not change the lives of ordinary people in Gaza.

You think if pro-Palestinian protests stopped no violent anti-semites would attack Jewish people?

FloralDeerPattern · 01/05/2026 09:54

Hate march is subjective isn't it? I personally think that people marching around with Israeli flags as Israel were killing 1000s of children and starving a whole population were pretty hateful but they have a right to march around with their flags of an apartheid regime(as decided by the ICJ) if they want to.

Swiftie1878 · 01/05/2026 09:56

ShockingBritain · 01/05/2026 09:49

Parliament report? Various organisations agree with the link.

"Pro-Palestinian protests and marches in the UK have been linked by government officials, police, and community groups to a surge in antisemitic incidents, with many describing these events as "hate marches"."

It is a report written by a Jewish charity and submitted to parliament.

ApplebyArrows · 01/05/2026 10:01

SunnyAfternoonToday · 01/05/2026 09:39

What is needed urgently to prevent a new generation from being inundated with anti Jewish rhetoric and misinformation by educating children in school and students at university about Jewish history especially about British Jews and what they have given through being doctors, teachers, lawyers etc in Britain since the 17th century. It may be too late to reeducate 16 - 23 year olds, but I hope not.

Not to downplay antisemitism at all but kids already get taught an awful lot about Jewish history via learning about the Holocaust, and that doesn't seem to be helping in the current situation.

ShockingBritain · 01/05/2026 10:09

Ablondiebutagoody · 01/05/2026 09:40

The Greens are a disgrace. It's interesting that the police only made the arrests after the Golders Green attack, despite knowing about the offences for a while. Police needed to look like they take this stuff seriously, even though they don't.

Polanski thinks that the police were heavy handed when arresting the knife attacker. He is a clown.

They are.

2 arrested for suspicion in stirring up hared online. "Nature of Allegations: The arrests relate to posts on social media that allegedly included:

  • An image with a placard stating, "ramming a synagogue isn't anti-Semitism, it's revenge".
  • Claims that 9/11 was a "false-flag attack" created by Israel.
  • Suggesting the UK government is "over-represented with Zionist Jews".
  • A cartoon showing a serpent with the Star of David on its skin."

They need to sort themselves out.

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SunnyAfternoonToday · 01/05/2026 10:10

ApplebyArrows · 01/05/2026 10:01

Not to downplay antisemitism at all but kids already get taught an awful lot about Jewish history via learning about the Holocaust, and that doesn't seem to be helping in the current situation.

Yes I agree but I think that they should be taught also specifically about British Jews, as the community has been in the UK since the 17th century. This could include the 1930s when the battle of Cable Street against Mosley's fascists took place.

What concerns me most though is universities, where @PurpleThistle7 has posted (as a lecturer herself with children who have been subjected to dreadful anti Jewish bullying) what goes on. Jewish university students bear the brunt of antisemitism on campus, of which there have been countless reports and nothing is done to stop them. Bristol, Exeter, Sussex are just three I can name but there are many more.

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