To think allisons pearsons rant about Angela Rayner is full of nasty stereotypes about girls who are 16 and pregnant?

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Well I’m not a fan of Angela Rayner and have never voted labour but Pearsons rant in the telegraph yesterday was half assumptions that Rayner must have been a bully who thumped classmates for doing their homework and distracted the class by talking about how many boys she shagged.
And of course reading books and having a child at 16 is mutually exclusive.
I don’t think Rayner has ever said she was like this Pearson has just made a load of assumptions because she was 16 and pregnant.

Anyway it’s behind a pay wall so I had to copy and paste the nasty part:

“I have noticed a tendency among politicians and commentators, particularly the posh ones, to praise Rayner’s flame-haired “authenticity”. That’s because they didn’t go to school with an Angela. Those of us who did know the harm that the Angelas do to kids from poorer homes who want to work hard and do well but whose lessons are permanently disrupted by those who don’t. The Angelas sit in the back row of the class putting on make-up, doing their nails and chatting loudly, throughout readings from the set book, about who they’ve sh---ed. They disdain the teachers who are rather scared of them.
Angelas have sex by the age of 13 (they mock those of us who are saving our virginity for later). Pregnant at 16, they leave school without any qualifications and work behind the till in Mac Fisheries before embarking on a romantic life which features at least two injunctions and a restraining order. By the age of 37, they are grandmothers (as Rayner was).
Believe me, all the kids who want to get on in life breathe an almighty sigh of relief that the Angelas have left school because now they can hand in their homework and try to pass their exams without being ridiculed or thumped by an Angela.
So you’ll have to forgive me if I don’t join in the applause for Angela Rayner’s vibrant “back story” and her ascent to the top of government through militant trade unionism. The working-class kids I admire often came from difficult council-house homes, as Rayner did, but they clung on to education like a life raft. Or they saw a job opportunity and grasped it with both hands. They did that old-fashioned thing called bettering themselves”

Allison Pearson is a ragebait peddler not a journalist any more. But she’s certainly achieved her aim with that piece of bile. If only she would retire or be sacked or do something else that doesn’t involve vomiting hateful nonsense in the public sphere.

A real girl’s girl, wow.

AR plays up to those stereotypes that's how she wants to be seen they are as bad as each other

Allison is correct - she’s saying that there are loads of disruptive trouble makers generally from poor backgrounds in classes who don’t give a crap about education, neither do their parents, and make learning really difficult for everyone else . That was certainly my experience at school and same for my kids . They all left at 15-16 so we could breathe a sigh of relief

Life is too short for this sort of shite.

Humans are different. Literally the point in humanity 🤦‍♀️

The article sounds awful, but I don't like AR either.

I think becoming the deputy prime Minister counts as bettering yourself.

Did they then become politicians?

She’s talking about an individual and it’s all just because she was 16 and pregnant. Pearson has no other way of knowing Angela was like that.
I mean I’ve got to admit it’s struck a nerve because I was also pregnant at 15/16 and was never like this I mean my body counts literally one and if anything I was the kid getting picked on lol.

I do remember those girls to be fair. Maybe if you went to a posher school you can’t relate.

Flipping loved 6th form as they had all gone and I could work hard without being dubbed a square swot etc.

This is not a thing in my DDs state school now they are all fiercely competitive. Which is a relief!

Isn’t it depressing that our press will happily publish this sort of shit? How anyone could respect the Telegraph when they publish something as vile as this is utterly beyond me.

It's classist, hateful snobbery from someone who can't handle the fact that someone who isn't 'the right sort of people' has done so well in life. Pathetic jealousy from a complete loser. We all know that assuming everyone from a particular background is the same is rank stupidity, but we shouldn't be surprised to see it - including right here on this thread.

It’s an outdated and misogynistic piece of tripe - but that’s why her readership want so she panders to it.

The Telegraph. Enough said.

Once a great newspaper, now not fit to put on the fire.

She’s talking about ‘her type’.

And actually I recognise the stereotypes. Like other posters, there were girls at school like this and a couple of them got pregnant and we all breathed a sigh of relief when they left.

Most of the members of their little ‘gang’ had babies before they were 18

Allison Pearson has always been a cunt and I'm not sure who she hates most, Angela Rayner or Meghan Markle. She has made a career out of peddling this kind of vitriol and right-wing Reform/Restore supporters lap it up. She's a disgusting human being.

Well you sound lovely

So journos shouldn’t criticise women in the public eye?

You don’t have to like what she writes but that’s the downside of a free press

There is absolutely no evidence that Angela Rayner was a disruptive trouble maker at school. Allison Pearson has done no research, she just makes assumptions and spews out her bile and hatred which people like you lap up.

There was a thread the other week on here about why particular demographics of students achieve particular levels of education. The general consensus which is backed by evidence is that white ‘working class’ boys achieve the least. White ‘working class’ girls are also pretty low on the achievement front. My secondary school teacher friends will certainly attest to the picture painted in this article sadly. I don’t know specifically about AR, but she would not have stood out amongst her peers if she was like one of the girls described in the article.
By the very nature of the fact that she has ended up in the position of power that she has, is a direct result of the kind of woman she is - strong, forthright, bolshy, driven. All great qualities but they don’t just appear once someone hits adulthood. I’m very much like AR, have achieved more than my childhood peers but believe me I was probably a nightmare at school.

Why? Because she called out a vile journalist who makes money from pedalling bile? The woman deliberately drags other women down. People like her bring no good to the world.

That is the image she chooses to show to the world. Many people can relate to what she is saying because they have known exactly that type of person from school days.

Why? Because I used the word 'cunt'? It totally fits a rage-baitey gutter journalist like Allison Pearson. I've criticised her for what she says and does, not for her background over which she had no control. She has provided no evidence or sources about Angela Rayner's time at school.

So should women not be permitted to criticise other women?