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AIBU to rip out a beautiful garden in potential house?

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Mum2HC · Today 08:14

Looking at new house - only one we like. Owner is an older couple who have spent years creating a garden worthy of an National Trust property!! The issue is we do not enjoy gardening and do not want to have to pay a gardener to keep all the flowers in check. Would it be awful to take out half the gardens flowers and replace with grass? It is 0.8 acre so a very big garden and our children would much prefer all turf to play football etc. It would feel almost criminal to do it but we don't want the upkeep - they also have a large rose garden which we would rather take out and have a vegetable garden. Is this all just too much?! It is the only house we like in our ideal location. It must be a full time job to look after it!!

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sayitisntsoo · Today 17:14

Valeriekat · Today 16:11

It is just a garden, not virgin rainforest!

Tell that to the hedgehogs, birds, frogs, newts, slow worms, bees, butterflies etc that might live there.

I'd be gutted if someone ripped out our garden because we have all of the above. I don't spend all day gardening though, I let the grass get long and have meadow flowers like ox eye daisies, knapweed, scabious wild carrot and yarrow growing through it (some planted by me). The hedges get cut once or twice a year.

By far the most work is the vegetable patch, everything literally everything wants to eat what you grow - particularly the pigeons and slugs. Everything has to be carefully watered, fed and looked after. The weeds grow 100 times faster than anything you plant. Please don't think a vegetable garden is something that doesn't take much work.

I wouldn't buy this house and rip out the garden, I think that would be an awful thing to do personally.

Weirdconditionaltense · Today 17:32

keepswimming38 · Today 09:06

No I personally think it’s horrendous and it will turn your neighbours against you. I’ve watched the destruction around us of stunning trees and gardens and it devalues the whole neighbourhood. It’s a plague quite honestly. People ripping out gardens to park 5 cars.

Buy a brand new house. One of those bland grey things and you’ll probably be very happy. Why be so destructive?

I think this is true about what the neighbours will think, ( which may or may not be a concern to the eventual buyers). Neighbours to this place most likely would feel entitled to their view on this garden if it truly is this beautiful, - even though it isn't theirs!

You only need to file a planning application ( as we did at this place), and you find out pretty fast what your neighbours somehow held close to their hearts about your own property.

ChuffingNoraah · Today 17:37

Mum2HC · Today 09:22

Thank you for such a kind response. We would much rather have a smaller, simple garden. However people seem to never want to leave this area as no houses have come on the market. It is weighing up staying in rented wasting money or buying a house with a garden we don't want!

OP I totally agree with the poster you are replying to, think very, very carefully about how much of a millstone this garden could be for you.

We sold up after 4/5 years in a house with a garden only slightly larger, in significant part because of the pressure of the upkeep - and that was with minimal actual gardening, more just the sheer scale of all tasks, not to mention expense of tree maintenance if that’s relevant, and similarly we couldn’t afford a gardener beyond the odd one off.

This could be a very poor decision.

godmum56 · Today 17:39

Numberwang66 · Today 16:39

That garden is utterly beautiful. I have to say it looks a lot like my Grandma's garden and growing up in a space like that really was spectacular.

If you could keep it and maintain it with a part time gardener, I'd implore you to. Your kids would love it!

its not the ACTUAL garden

ObligateAerobe · Today 17:40

FWIW, OP, I'm a keen gardener. Mine is closer to the mature, well-stocked, plant-focused NT-style than the family-style, football & BBQ garden. You aren't being unreasonable to want a garden that works best for your family. The existing space can almost certainly be reworked to accommodate the football lawn, reduce your time commitments, and keep pockets of mature plants in situ for biodiversity reasons. There's definitely a happy medium between time/skill/labour-intensive NT-style plant-focused gardens and monoculture deserts.

Gardens by their very nature are ever-changing, adapting to the world around them and the needs, and tastes of the people who use and enjoy them.

sunnybaros · Today 17:51

Such a shame for the wildlife living in that garden. A lot of those plants are perennial and actually just need dead-heading and trimming now and again. You could teach your children a lot about nature in that garden.

Lovemycat2023 · Today 17:55

I love gardening but it is hard work keeping it all up.

what I would do is employ someone to work out what is best to keep, and what you can get rid of (offer to others) and how best to have a garden you can enjoy at lower effort. For example I find roses hard work and don’t enjoy them. But I have some shrubs which are very little work, good for insects, and robust enough to have footballs kicked at them.

good luck OP!

CraftandGlamour · Today 17:59

Calliopespa · Today 16:35

I don't understand the problem or the angst. It's your house, do whatever you want with it. Sod the garden, pour concrete all over, if you wish.

What I have found really depressing - and to be honest quite sad - about this thread is the fact that so many people cannot see the problem.

Of course it is understandable that someone might not want a big garden, that isn't hard to comprehend at all.

But what I do find hard to comprehend is that out of a dogged subservience to practicality and a kind of base elevation of the idea of doing what you want regardless, a kind of "no-one can stop you", people think it is fine to just buy whatever house and destroy such a garden. It is a depressing lack of appreciation for things that transcend the everyday hum drum, and for the creation of things that elevate us above mere functioning robots. I get why someone might not want to tend such a garden themselves, but being happy to destroy it is another thing entirely.

Yes, thank you for articulating this so well.

Mum2HC · Today 18:11

thehaplessgardener · Today 15:11

Don't you dare.

Sorry it's impossible to keep up with this thread especially with the ridiculous comments like this one!

Thank you to the people who have made sensible suggestions, food for thought!

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Mum2HC · Today 18:13

ObligateAerobe · Today 17:40

FWIW, OP, I'm a keen gardener. Mine is closer to the mature, well-stocked, plant-focused NT-style than the family-style, football & BBQ garden. You aren't being unreasonable to want a garden that works best for your family. The existing space can almost certainly be reworked to accommodate the football lawn, reduce your time commitments, and keep pockets of mature plants in situ for biodiversity reasons. There's definitely a happy medium between time/skill/labour-intensive NT-style plant-focused gardens and monoculture deserts.

Gardens by their very nature are ever-changing, adapting to the world around them and the needs, and tastes of the people who use and enjoy them.

Thank you, a great response. This is what we would plan to do, a happy medium. Keep the borders but take out the middle and but grass down.

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Heronwatcher · Today 18:19

Mum2HC · Today 18:13

Thank you, a great response. This is what we would plan to do, a happy medium. Keep the borders but take out the middle and but grass down.

I mean if you’d asked whether it was reasonable to slightly modify a beautiful garden and keep large parts of it, rather than “rip it out” this might have been a very different thread 🤦🏼‍♀️

Sweetpeasaremadeforbees · Today 18:26

I mean if you’d asked whether it was reasonable to slightly modify a beautiful garden and keep large parts of it, rather than “rip it out” this might have been a very different thread

Exactly. Why do OPs do this? Are they deliberately baiting people? (See also the eviction/niece thread where it turns out the OP has offered the tenants another bigger house for less rent rather than just making them homeless.) So frustrating.

Mum2HC · Today 18:30

Sweetpeasaremadeforbees · Today 18:26

I mean if you’d asked whether it was reasonable to slightly modify a beautiful garden and keep large parts of it, rather than “rip it out” this might have been a very different thread

Exactly. Why do OPs do this? Are they deliberately baiting people? (See also the eviction/niece thread where it turns out the OP has offered the tenants another bigger house for less rent rather than just making them homeless.) So frustrating.

What are you talking about?!!

My OP - "Would it be awful to take out half the gardens flowers and replace with grass?" Note the word HALF

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Sweetpeasaremadeforbees · Today 18:32

AIBU to rip out a beautiful garden in potential house?

That's your title!

Mum2HC · Today 18:34

Sweetpeasaremadeforbees · Today 18:32

AIBU to rip out a beautiful garden in potential house?

That's your title!

Read the post!

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Sweetpeasaremadeforbees · Today 18:36

So the title is irrelevant to the post? It's just there to draw people into the thread?

Calliopespa · Today 18:41

Sweetpeasaremadeforbees · Today 18:36

So the title is irrelevant to the post? It's just there to draw people into the thread?

Yes, and add to that the fact that no-one in their right mind would really look at a garden of the scale and type the posted pics were of and think "Oh the house works but the garden'll have to go."

Oblahdeeoblahdoe · Today 18:41

You have to organise the garden to suit yourselves and your DC. Of course they want to be able to play, and without worrying about damaging plants with a ball. I say this as an avid gardener. I'm envious!

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