to think “food noise” is becoming one of those phrases people hide behind rather than actually dealing with their eating habits?

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I keep hearing people say they have “food noise” and that’s why they’re constantly thinking about food or snacking, but isn’t that just hunger, boredom, habit, or emotional eating dressed up in a nicer label? I’m not saying it’s not real for some people, especially where there are medical issues involved, but the way it’s thrown around now makes it sound like no one has any control over it at all.

It just feels like another way to remove any personal responsibility. Not everything needs a label. Sometimes it’s just about eating properly and getting enough protein and actually addressing emotional eating.

Absolutely!

All human societies start getting fatter once they have enough resources to feed everyone as much as they want and not many of the population are taking an appetite suppressant. In the mid 20th century that was nicotine. In the 21st century, the US is the only example of a society who've managed to reduce the obesity rate and in their case the suppressant is WLIs.

I'm always surprised how many people presume there must be some way to live in an abundant society without this evolutionary trait doing what we've been selected for it to do, tbh.

Being deprived of food as a form as abuse as a child is the root of my issue

just it wasn’t an issue when I never gained weight (or had other health issues)

I have no idea why other people suffer this, it hasn’t stopped since being on wli just makes it’s manageable

why do we want people to suffer when they don’t need to

I also wonder how / if people in different cultures experience food noise. and if so is it the same.

do people in Japan / Kenya / Uruguay (for example) also experience food noise to the same extent. I can’t imagine the Masai or Inuit experience food noise, but maybe I’m wrong. I don’t know.

I’ve grown up in west where food and body image has been promoted to me consistently & very powerfully via tv, magazines etc my whole life.

there probably is a cultural conditioning aspect.

I do think food noise is dictated by what you eat in a lot of cases, if you cut out sugar and simple refined carbs, I think it can definitely reduce, purely because of biology, for a lot of people.
It's hard to do though because of all the social aspects regarding sugar being a 'treat' that you use to celebrate certain events and and then add in the emotional aspects related to eating certain foods, nobody drowns their sorrows with a pint of water and plate of fresh greens !

Yep same here.

I think that’s the problem.

Yes this.

Couldn't find tribally specific stats, but the three countries you mention all have rising obesity rates so quite possibly.

It’s just then fat youngens trying to cover up there flab’s more bloody woke nonsense from then grubby little bastards

I don’t just think of food when hungry. Every person on a diet obsesses what to have for next meal, when they can eat again. I love food and think about it a lot. But I don’t always give in and eat what i’d like to eat, as i’d be very over weight. Food noise is a trendy new term, but it’s not a new thing at all. I guess some people eat to live, but most are thinking about their next meal. In my office anyway. I guess that’s where willpower comes in, and I know not everyone has that in equal proportions, but I do think this whole food noise thing is becoming a new way of excusing over eating. And i’ll be shot down for saying that, but I think most of us live with what we’d like to eat v what we do eat debate daily.

Re the ‘just give up sugar’ theory, that didn’t work in my case. I had gestational diabetes, diagnosed really early in my last pregnancy. From 11 weeks until he was born I ate absolutely no sugar and very limited carbs (all complex carbs and all well paired with fats and proteins). I did it because my need to protect my baby was more powerful than the food noise but that didn’t mean the food noise was gone, even after months of no sugar or refined carbs. It just made pregnancy a miserable, deprived experience where I was constantly aware of what I couldn’t have.

I’m sure giving up sugar helps some people with food cravings but it’s far from the whole story.

HRT queen I am sorry to hear about that . No wonder you have some issues .Sending hugs to you xx

If the term “food noise” is being used as an excuse for over eating, it’s odd that it’s become popularised alongside obesity treatments where people find they stop overeating.

Is nobody allowed to discuss anything? Are you new to forums?

I’m educated and have money but I have BED and I am morbidly obese. I do take responsibility for my gluttony though.

It's the constant food craving is very real. But if you manage to stop listening for a week, it dies down, just like other addiction withdrawal symptoms.

Refined carbs, sugar and UPFs are poison! We need to stop companies doing this to us.

I have apologized! I genuinely was not trying to be offensive, critical or argumentative.

i have the feeling you have misunderstood. I was not saying food noise doesn’t exist. The opposite to be honest.

i’m not sure what has gone wrong here.

Where the general noise is conversational level, perhaps the luteal phase shouts so harder to quieten 😅

There is a key important difference between a food addiction and an alcohol addiction - you have to eat. You don’t have to drink.

You can discuss things. Which is precisely why I asked you a question.

Why didn’t you answer my question? Are you just here to police women?

but isn’t that just hunger, boredom, habit, or emotional eating dressed up in a nicer label?

No. It's hormonal.

I used to have food noise all the time. No matter where I was, what I was doing or how I was feeling. I took WLI and it vanished. I felt normal (I went most of my life without food noise and being a healthy weight). I've been off them over a year now and it hasn't returned.

For me, food noise isn't boredom or emotional eating, it's not habit. I DO eat for all those reasons as well sometimes, but it's absolutely not the same as food noise.

Surely it is my choice whether I answer your question?

This can't be a new thing! What was food noise called before it was called food noise?

Of course it’s not new. It’s just the phrase that’s new, popularised by the discovery of people taking WLI who realise that it’s not there any more.

perhaps it was called food addiction, or compulsive over eating, or boredom eating, or emotional eating or all the other variations and combinations previously.

Why reply to me if you don’t want to engage in my question?

Don’t you understand how forums work?

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