to think “food noise” is becoming one of those phrases people hide behind rather than actually dealing with their eating habits?

[foodywoody]

I keep hearing people say they have “food noise” and that’s why they’re constantly thinking about food or snacking, but isn’t that just hunger, boredom, habit, or emotional eating dressed up in a nicer label? I’m not saying it’s not real for some people, especially where there are medical issues involved, but the way it’s thrown around now makes it sound like no one has any control over it at all.

It just feels like another way to remove any personal responsibility. Not everything needs a label. Sometimes it’s just about eating properly and getting enough protein and actually addressing emotional eating.

You really are deliberately trying to goad aren’t you?
Can you just accept that you are viewing this from a position of no experience? Probably not but I’ll leave you to it because I’ve shared my view from the stance of experiencing it and you dismiss it. You don’t deserve more of my time.

Yes, I was eextremely hungry at that particular point but I still had food mouse even when I ate normally and was a normal weight. Still do now. Not getting fat matters more than giving in to my burning need to eat whatever it is. most of the time.

Seriously?? I started full time work three weeks after my 16th birthday and have always worked in low wage jobs. I didn't need to be "educated" or have money to know what a healthy diet is.

I’m just disagreeing with you, this is a forum.

How do you know what experience anyone has? I’d be surprised if anyone has never experienced “food noise” of some kind.

Afraid I can't see most of that article as it's for members. Looks like it's about the policies that have led them to have low rates? Those policies exist, but their obesity rates are nonetheless rising, not being reversed. It's about halfway down the page below under 'risk factors'.

https://data.who.int/countries/392

Sorry it's quite annoyingly presented, couldn't find the WHO stats elsewhere.

I do get that. A close friend of mine had anorexia and she later flipped to non-purging bulimia. But long periods of starvation physically alter the brain (and in fact she ended up with a hypothalamus disorder). So it’s not surprising if the brain later compensates by giving urgent cues to eat. It doesn’t know that you’re not going back into starvation.

But I think that’s slightly different from a general tendency to comfort/over-eat.

I also agree that people may have varying degrees of what could be called “food noise” but they simply ignore it.

The idea on here seems to be that slim people never experience fancying more cake or too much ice cream. They do, they take a different approach and decide against it.

Definitely.

Please excuse the typos! I didn’t have a food mouse 😂

👏🏻 well said

I think this explains it clearly. It's a shame that the smug snugging STILL will deny it exists & STILL don't understand that the difference is that you can't just abstain from all food, it's like an alcoholic having to have a whiskey on the rocks twice a day.

& that is NOT true.

I am vegetarian, I generally (like 360/365 days of the year) eat a low carb diet, I don't eat junk food & I don't eat UPFs

No I'm not a saint, I'm a vegetarian diabetic who controls their HbA1c through diet & exercise.

its fucking tedious & the food noise is like a sodding brass band in my head.

The people who don't get it, don't understand & should just be fucking grateful instead of being smug & preachy.

No it wouldn't.

i eat a vegetarian low carb diet, with no 'junk' no UPF's.

the brass band of food noise plays on.

Sorry I don't fit your image of chip stuffing & coke guzzling lazy cow.

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Again well said 👏🏻🌷 but I doubt those that it applies to will bother to even try to understand. Being smug & judgemental is so much easier & much more comfortable for them.

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Honestly, there's a lot to be said for just laughing at Dunning Kruger behaviour.

👍🏻🤗

I've run out of words tgat wont get me banned & it's not quite 9am.

Hope you have a goid day 🤗

Don’t be disappointing them with the truth.

They’d far rather see us as lazy and greedy and then they can throw around all the words they love like wolfing down, guzzling, stuffing our faces, piling plates high.

The sad reality is that it’s exhausting, near constant and really intrusive. I can be perfectly satisfied from a meal (yes I do the balanced protein and fibre thing) no thoughts or boredom, sadness or any other emotion and all of a sudden this screechy voice in my ear is like ooooh I bet you want food right now, what’s in the cupboard, should you go to the shop, what about if you just ate a little bit…… on it goes.

Yet here we are being judged by people who have never experienced this. The lack of any sort of compassion is just so awful.

As someone who has always struggled with food, I totally agree with this. UPF’s and processed foods are designed to be addictive - of course people are going to get cravings and struggle when they try and give them up.

Not the same at all. A slim person just fancying abit of cake isnt even close to food noise.
Thanks to PMDD most of my life my hormones caused food noise. Then depending where I was in my cycle it would just 'switch off' and I wouldnt even recognise myself when Id been obsessed with food, it was like a compulsion to want to eat. The other side of me could just 'fancy' abit of cake and think "maybe later".
Once perimenopause hit the food noise practically disappeared and I lost 7 stone!
Its why weight loss injections work, it lets you think about food rationally.
It may not be a medical condition but it can be affected by body chemistry, emotions and psychology.

To me its real in the way a severe phobia is real. It may not seem logical to others but it can seriously affect the quality of someones life.

You are so right.

MN's approach of leaving goady nonsense threads standing so people can be educated is frustrating, especially when you can't call them out on it, just 'educate' them.

Absolutely spot on!

I wouldn’t bother to even try to explain your experiences on here. It’s just another goady fat shaming thread and the creator won’t be interested in hearing your experience of food noise.

for some strange reason it feels as if people want other people to stay fat, who knows why? Maybe makes them feel better about themselves? Maybe former fat people losing weight means they might have to make an effort? I have no idea. I just find it very hypocritical how people go on and on about the obesity crisis and the burden on the NHS and then go on to shame/belittle people for using weight loss aids.

makes zero sense.

Never heard of this phrase. It sounds as though some people just need busier lives and other things to do and think of rather than what they’ll eat next

A low carb diet....

That would be your problem.

Why is everything so binary here? I have experienced "food noise" - though I would never have called it that, and still wouldn't call it that.

The people calling others discussing on a discussion forum "smug" should be a touch less aggressive, I think.