AIBU to be shocked by public celebration of Michael Jackson?

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Now the MJ film is out my social media feed is flooded with people doing the dances and talking about the movie etc. My local cinema is holding special events and screenings.

I personally have no doubt that he was a predatory paedophile. All the signs are there, especially how he talks about how he would never hurt a child and sharing a bed with them is the "most loving thing you can do in the world". He manipulated the world into thinking he had a "child-like persona" but was able to manage a music career worth millions... which someone who is naive would never be able to manage.

I also do not judge people who enjoy his music. It was very popular at the time, and would be associated with all types nostaligic memories. I listen to problematic artists all the time, but I don't pretend that they weren't abusive.

AIBU to be astounded that any business/media outlet would be seen dead even associating with him let alone celebrating such a horrifically abusive man.

This is the main link.

https://www.reddit.com/r/LeavingNeverlandHBO/comments/15xm1cu/spanish_taken_out_la_toya_jackson_exposes_mj/

After Laytoya came out to support women, who had been abused and shared her stories about her dad's abuse towards her and her sister, she went on numerous chat shows. She was adamant Michael had abused the boys. She confessed shed never seen it with her own eyes but stated it was common knowledge and that mj had been abused by two elderly males himself.

She then was ostracised (right word?) by the family and to get back in went back on her claims and said her ex husband got her to say them. But some of the claims she made came up years later in the second trial.

And there are still idiots out there who claim hes innocent and was child-like!

George Best airport too, alcoholic wife beater.

I definitely think that MJ was an abuser. So what if some boys said he didn't do it to them, doesn't mean he didn't do it to others. A local minister to us abused children in a confirmation class two girls from the six attending. The other four said 100 no way he was an abuser he did't do It to them. The other two and the legal system knew differently and he is now in prison.

Oh come on. If you'd followed the trial as closely as you did you would have seen the central argument from his defense team was that he was eccentric and did cross boundaries but it didn't amount to criminal sexual abuse which was what he was accused of.
They didn't argue that he didn't sleep in the same bed as boys or didn't keep pornography. But if you think that a man sleeping in the same bed as pre-pubescent boy is just a little eccentric then I hope you don't have children.

The jury didn't find beyond a reasonable doubt that he was guilty. That's not a claim of innocence. There was probably just people like you in the jury that lapped up the defense of a multimillionaire.

Latoya Jackson said she was beaten the shit out of by her Israeli Boyfriend who made her say he abused boys.

he didn’t.

He was likely Saving children from the vast Peadophile network that is still happening today

wtf?

Clearly, he was damaged to fuck but that doesn't excuse what he did.

The only reason that he hasn't been filled along with Saville, Harris et al is because of he made and continues to make (for other people) significantly more money than those 2.

MJ was accused of serious crimes, investigated , detained and ultimately stood trial where he was acquitted.
I don’t know whether he was guilty or not . What I do know is that since his death there have been a surge of renewed accusations. I am not convinced that all these claims are credible
Some individuals making allegations have previously said that MJ caused them no harm only to later change their minds .
This inconsistency makes it difficult to assess what is true and what is not true and raises concerns about whether some may be exploiting the situation for financial gain.
At the same time , one of the issues with MJ was his naivety or perhaps arrogance depending on how one interprets his personality .
He appeared to act without fully considering the consequences of his actions . Having sleepovers with young children etc. This contributed to the controversies surrounding him.

Yes he also was a piece of shit, who abused her and he was also brought into the fold by the Jackson's dad.

In subsequent interviews, she has swerved certain questions and even if he did control and abuse her, what is to say the same thing didn't happen in the Jackson household. When she finally escaped him she needed family and they turned their backs on her after these interviews, which is why she recanted them.

But the fact she stated things, which were not common knowledge, but came out years later in the second trial shows there was truth.

The truth is, we can't be certain about anything 100% but we can be certain that Michael was a deviant with a sick interest in kids.

But you carry only ignoring it and creating a false narrative that fits your views.

Exactiy

More like they saw $$$$$$

MJ was a mixed up individual but I am not convinced that he is a paedophile.

Agreed, DH and I said the film was weird given everything that has come out about him in recent years. I mean the rumours were circulating for many years during his life too but the Netflix docu was pretty damning. I can’t imagine a film glorifying Savile or Rolf Harris would go down too well.

He deliberately targeted families who were struggling and the most likely to be exploitable (best case scenario) or most likely to allow their children to be potentially abused. He also chose people who were unlikely to be believed.
Let’s not forget that most of these boys had serious illness like cancer. Their parents had huge medical bills. MJ gave these parents huge sums of money. He bought one set of parents a house.
He showed them so much “kindness” and “generosity” at a time when they were struggling. To put them in a position where they felt they couldn’t say no to him having access to their children in a way that never should have been allowed. He didn’t walk straight up to these people and say “hey, let me have sleepovers in private with your kid and I’ll pay you”. He did it slowly, manipulatively, systematically but it amounts to the same.
He had almost unlimited resources for drawing kids and their families in. He had his own theme park FFS. And people trusted him implicitly because he was famous and they thought they knew him, because he had a legitimate reason to be a philanthropist- loads of cash.
Why always boys in or around the same age though? No girls. Not building children’s hospitals or investing in Neonatal healthcare units. Only adolescent boys, who as a pp said, he then dumped at more or less the same age.

Yeah he fucked corpses. And was found very guilty, looked and acted like an absolute creeper. Was protected by the Royals.

Michael was an 👼

The crazy thing about this - is that this poster has a 9 year old son. Wonder if she'd let him stay the night in that 'angels' bed.

The latest bbc documentary on MJ features interviews with the police officers who dealt with the very first complaint against him that was settled out of court. The victim was able to describe physical features of MJ that they shouldn’t have known and the police confirmed in the documentary that the child was accurate in their description. He was most definitely an abuser. The evidence is overwhelming. I still listen to his music but I wouldn’t watch the film or idolise him in any way. I can separate the art from the artist.

Yes, I am also shocked.

I don’t know what to believe. There are some theory’s they started rumours to cover that he could expose the people involved with the Epstein files. I do believe that the media is controlled by the powerful and rich. So it’s not completely crazy. But I don’t know what to believe and take most things with a pinch of salt.

But he didn’t expose anything, he had the biggest platform in the world.. So he could have done, he did nothing.
He chose to use his power to lure small boys into his bedroom, because he was a pedophile.

Yes, it's something I've sort of 75% believed that he did abuse those boys, but there was always that 25% of doubt. I'm not so sure he wasn't a scapegoat.

Set up by Israelis?! What??

All of this nonsense about his bad childhood annoys me.. His dad was physically abusive, so were lots of dads.. I know of plenty of people that had atrocious childhoods, none of them went on to sleep with little kids.
There isn’t another person on earth who’s abusive childhood has resulted in the cure being.. I need sleepovers with children, never girls just little boys.. Why do you think that is? These children didn’t stand a chance in a court room, my heart goes out to them.. I hope Micheal Jackson is rotting in hell, he was a vile monster.
I really hope the four siblings (Casio family) that have recently filed against the Jackson estate are believed, four more children who’s childhoods were destroyed by that sick piece of crap.

The kids were with their families though and he met them in a variety of ways, one won a dance contest, he met one on the set of a commercial, another was sick in hospital, another was by chance when MJs car broke down and was taken to the boys stepfathers garage etc he wasn't taking them out of any network

I agree.

I was driving earlier, listening to my local BBC radio station, and there's this guy on, reviewing the latest film and tv.
He says, "Of COURSE everyone is going to see the new Michael Jackson film!" He was raving about it.
My immediate reaction was, "I'm not!"