AIBU to be shocked by public celebration of Michael Jackson?

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Now the MJ film is out my social media feed is flooded with people doing the dances and talking about the movie etc. My local cinema is holding special events and screenings.

I personally have no doubt that he was a predatory paedophile. All the signs are there, especially how he talks about how he would never hurt a child and sharing a bed with them is the "most loving thing you can do in the world". He manipulated the world into thinking he had a "child-like persona" but was able to manage a music career worth millions... which someone who is naive would never be able to manage.

I also do not judge people who enjoy his music. It was very popular at the time, and would be associated with all types nostaligic memories. I listen to problematic artists all the time, but I don't pretend that they weren't abusive.

AIBU to be astounded that any business/media outlet would be seen dead even associating with him let alone celebrating such a horrifically abusive man.

But that's the thing.. we aren't talking about my children are we?? We are talking about the specific accusers of MJ who I believe have corrupt parents that I do not trust.

They are adults now and saying it themselves. Honestly no idea why people don't want to believe them. Michael had a horribly inappropriate relationship with James Safechuck when he was a child which involved sharing a bed with him on tour. He says Michael sexually abused him and I find that very, very plausible.

I know this is only from you tube - but there are other more reliable sources out there also with this 'Square One' etc. please listen to the end.

But this is the kind of man that Evan Chandler was he was out to destroy his ex wife's life by removing Jordan from her and making millions out of MJ and destroying his career and he did not care. He was not a parent that was concerned for his son.

As I've said up thread Safechuck and Robson are liars and out to screw money out of the estate. They both lied under oath. Don't believe a word of what they say. Their lies have been debunked.

I believe them. You try to malign their motives but if they wanted money it would have been much easier for them to stay quiet and get the estate to pay them off. Then they wouldn't have to face insults and hatred from Jackson fans

And honestly the estate deserves to be sued. Whilst Jackson was alive so many people helped to cover up his child abuse or turned a blind eye in order to make money. Now it continues with his estate after his death. Rubbishing his victims so they can profit from his legacy.

They know the estate wouldn’t willingly pay them off, so they’re pursuing their current lawsuit. That’s essentially why people try to sue. Why would you give away millions of dollars if you didn’t need to?

I beleive them too
If they are liars they are very good liars ,and the amount of graphic detail they, went imto when describing the abuse was very disturbing
Even if MJ didnt sexually abuse
Hes certainly gulty of emotional abuse .

How is it different though? Do you understand that if god forbid someone absurd your child that abuser absolutely will say that your child / you are making it up? It's literally THE tactic of abusers not some rare thing because he was a celebrity. Literally every abuser Denys, attacks and reverses victim and offender and then sickeningly if they're a celebrity their fans do it too.

Weren't you the poster who claimed MJ paying our £25 mm didn't signal he was guilty cos it was a drop in the ocean? 😅 So by that logic why wouldn't the estate do the same? 🤔

I see there’s a famous ‘celebrant’ of the film:

https://edition.cnn.com/2026/05/02/entertainment/video/spike-lee-slams-film-critics-who-panned-new-michael-jackson-film-lcl

Well fuck me. I was all ready to boycott this fucking sick celebration of a child abuser but Spike Lee loved it?!

That’s me sold! 🙄

Because settling for $30 million or whatever would be hugely damaging to the Jackson brand. Moreover, Safechuck and Robson could potentially get hundreds of millions of dollars in damages, which the estate wouldn’t willingly give out.

Savile & Harris weren't convicted either...

Lee has his own issues with various questionable opinions judging by some of his films, but I didn't think his judgement was this poor.

Why would it be so damaging? I and others think it absolutely shows guilt but you said plenty of innocent people would happily pay out £25m and it would be a drop in the ocean but now you're saying why would they settle if they don't need to...so why did MJ need to exactly?

I wonder why Jafar chose to do this. I suppose he believes MJ is innocent...

Which celebs?

Exactly. The Boondocks episode on R Kelly is really on a partial exaggeration of how some fans acted back in the early 2000s when the allegations started.

@Whyohwhyohwhy26 Just very basic PR, if you don’t understand that then I can’t help you.

I don’t know exactly why he settled (for a relatively small amount). I also think your use of the word ‘need’ is unnecessary. I said it was a drop in the ocean for him and didn’t necessarily indicate his guilt. Could be he didn’t want the hassle of going to court and wanted to forget about it? Or could be he was advised to settle because of the likelihood of him being found guilty? He said he didn’t want the court case interfering with his concert plans. Who knows.

Harris was convicted wasn't he?

Saville was dead but there was a huge government led police enquiry. There was evidence of hundreds of victims.

Sorry, that's right.

It's different. I'm not saying we shouldn't believe a child. I'm saying I don't believe these two specific children because I believe their parents coerced them. I'm saying I don't believe the two grown men Safechuck and Robson who said under oath they'd never been touched and suddenly remembered that they'd been abused 10 years after MJ had died.

The estate has paid off other accusers.

https://www.ft.com/content/d86248a0-8d8f-4269-bc14-b4e330ada268?syn-25a6b1a6=1

Usually if you accept a private settlement you agree not to talk about it as part of the conditions.

I think James and Wade want to talk about it and want their day in court and that they were sexually abused.