AIBU to be shocked by public celebration of Michael Jackson?

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Now the MJ film is out my social media feed is flooded with people doing the dances and talking about the movie etc. My local cinema is holding special events and screenings.

I personally have no doubt that he was a predatory paedophile. All the signs are there, especially how he talks about how he would never hurt a child and sharing a bed with them is the "most loving thing you can do in the world". He manipulated the world into thinking he had a "child-like persona" but was able to manage a music career worth millions... which someone who is naive would never be able to manage.

I also do not judge people who enjoy his music. It was very popular at the time, and would be associated with all types nostaligic memories. I listen to problematic artists all the time, but I don't pretend that they weren't abusive.

AIBU to be astounded that any business/media outlet would be seen dead even associating with him let alone celebrating such a horrifically abusive man.

What do you do for work? (Sorry if you’ve already said and I didn’t see it.)

Local Authority statutory services.

Im talking over 30 years.

These are not colleagues Im talking about.

The Lost Boys? What has that film got to do with anything regarding Corey Feldman & his SA crusade against old Hollywood, which is commendable but he accused Corey Haim of abusing him on the set of The Lost Boys & it was absolutely false

About to watch the Michael movie. Theatre is full up. Great to see 😊

It's a shame it doesn't feature his 'special friends'. You could gush over how adorable the relationships are. 😊

@AutumnLover1990 your thoughts? Jaysus thought you were cool

The biopic was meant to be much more of an expose but for legal reasons, they couldn’t use most of that material. I don’t know why they didn’t just shelve the whole project at that point.

But it was financed by the Jackson estate wasn't it? So I don't think it was meant to be an expose.

No, it was financed by a Hollywood film studio.

Ah, they just funded the re-shoots I think.
But it seems that the estate were involved from the start so it was never meant to be a real expose.

Sick.

Again, opinions presented as fact to suit narratives.

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/michael-director-producer-paid-millions-reshoots-cut-abuse-1236577257/

Have you done any research at all? The first boy settled out of court - later evidence was found that his father who was a dentist gave him drugs to make him make accusations against MJ and there are tapes of his father saying he was going to destroy MJ.

The second lot of allegations prompted a FBI investigation and it went to court and MJ was found unanimously not guilty on all counts.

The two men who suddenly remembered they had been abused when they were in their 30's and took part in the leaving neverland documentary - they testified when they were younger that MJ never touched them. Their stories were never tested, the hit piece was completely one sided and much of their stories have been shown to be false. (Watch 'Lies of leaving Neverland'. Both men were friends with MJ and visited Neverland (one wanted to get married there) one wanted to choreographer for MJ Broadway show etc. but when they were turned down suddenly decided to sue the estate for millions of dollars.

So yes basically people who think MJ is innocent think the alleged victims are not credible and are out for the money.

Also Safechuck wanted to get married at Neverland (strange you'd want your wedding at a place you were supposedly abused at). Robson is teaching dance classes today and using Jackson's music. Again,odd. I don't believe them 😠

Yes exactly!!!

Looking forward to the paedo-washing biopics of Garry Glitter and Ian Watkins next.

Sicko 😠

Fair play, I lived through all of this so didn’t think I needed to do in depth research but did forget the second court case, which you rightly highlight.

And yes, I agree that those taking the view that MJ is innocent of child abuse are assuming the motivation for the accusations is financial.

How do the paedo apologists account for the fingerprints of one of his accusers being found on pages of hardcore porn magazines?

Perhaps ‘Hustlers Barely Legal Hardcore’ actually belonged to one of the little boys and they left it there in his bedroom during one of the innocent sleepovers…

Which court case was this evidence from?

From the New York times.

“Michael” was never going to be a warts-and-all look at the superstar — not with lawyers for his estate riding shotgun. But the version of the project that was shopped to studios depicted a police investigation into child molestation claims. The movie’s third act hinged on accusations by a 13-year-old boy named Jordan Chandler; Jackson agreed to <a class="break-all" href="https://archive.ph/o/4C4iy/www.nytimes.com/1994/01/26/us/michael-jackson-settles-suit-for-sum-said-to-be-in-millions.html" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">pay him roughly $23 million in 1994 to settle a lawsuit, effectively ending a criminal investigation. (Jackson always denied any wrongdoing.)

https://archive.ph/4C4iy#selection-4759.0-4763.106

There's no way with family involvement that it was going to be like an expose, it would 100% have made the Chandlers look bad and no doubt had Michael just saying 'everyone knows I never had a childhood'.

Many or even most who are abused have some people who don't believe them, 'why did they do this?' 'why did they do that', 'why didn't they tell someone straight away', 'very strange to do that/go back/blah blah if they'd been abused'.

Questions/statements like that say nothing about the victims and everything abut the person who makes them!

Gavin Arvizos.

When it comes to gaining vast sums of money, money that means you will never have to work again and live comfortably for the rest of your life, experience has made me realise that some people will say and do anything to get that money.

Absolute nonsense. This is very offensive actually suggesting that black people are protected as they are a marginalised group? Didn't R Kelly and P Diddy get convicted? If there was enough evidence, MJ would've been convicted. Simple.