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To think that justice was not done

26 replies

Skinnysaluki · Today 19:31

AIBU to have read the reports of the trial of Christopher Trybus and be absolutely raging at the way that women’s lives are just viewed as absolutely worthless and the way that ancient tropes about women as deceitful and hysterical are still wheeled out to discredit victims and deny them justice? I just dont know what to do with all this fury

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impartialusername · Today 19:36

I can’t believe injuries to her abdomen that were described as horrific as a car crash were overlooked because he said ‘he hadn’t noticed them’. There was more than enough evidence to show he was abusive. I really have no faith in our justice system.

Skinnysaluki · Today 19:50

impartialusername · Today 19:36

I can’t believe injuries to her abdomen that were described as horrific as a car crash were overlooked because he said ‘he hadn’t noticed them’. There was more than enough evidence to show he was abusive. I really have no faith in our justice system.

And the absolute crap about the foam roller.
its just disgusting

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PrizedPickledPopcorn · Today 19:51

Gosh. I haven’t read any details, but even just the outline I read had me questioning it. Do you have a link with more info?

WhatAMarvelousTune · Today 19:52

I don’t really know enough about the story in general, but this sentence stood out in the BBC article.

“Outside court, Trybus hugged his current wife Bea, whom he married in August 2024, with both of them in tears”

Current wife?? If I was her mother, I would be concerned.

PrizedPickledPopcorn · Today 19:54

WhatAMarvelousTune · Today 19:52

I don’t really know enough about the story in general, but this sentence stood out in the BBC article.

“Outside court, Trybus hugged his current wife Bea, whom he married in August 2024, with both of them in tears”

Current wife?? If I was her mother, I would be concerned.

Edited

Absolutely.
What struck me in the very basic article I read, was 3 police investigations (hen’s teeth, as we know), and a new wife.

If I were in his position, traumatised by the death by suicide of my wife, under investigation, the last thing I’d do is get involved with someone else. Whereas he’s married again.

PrizedPickledPopcorn · Today 19:56

And a quote from the defence lawyer…
“how he was supposed to answer the allegations of a ghost from 10 years ago”

As though she wasn’t making the allegations at the time they happened. Poor woman.

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PrizedPickledPopcorn · Today 20:09

It’s interesting how my gut instinct kicked in, even from an article reporting he’d been found not guilty and which didn’t list any details of the abuse or injuries she’d reported.

QuadrupleH · Today 20:18

PrizedPickledPopcorn · Today 20:09

It’s interesting how my gut instinct kicked in, even from an article reporting he’d been found not guilty and which didn’t list any details of the abuse or injuries she’d reported.

Only read the BBC article and yes they were quick to point out the jury was 7:5 female.

But Trybus, who ran an IT company, said that he travelled abroad frequently for work and was out of the country on the days of several of the allegations.

This is weird as well. He "said" it. Surely this is quite significant - surely a statement of fact on the issue might help. Was he in the country or wasn't he?

WaryCrow · Today 20:24

Surely that kind of information would be easy to check, that’s why we have passports.

QuadrupleH · Today 20:28

WaryCrow · Today 20:24

Surely that kind of information would be easy to check, that’s why we have passports.

I thought that - but then that leads to him telling the truth at least in that respect. Just seems an odd phrase of reporting either way.

TheHillIsMine · Today 20:28

Was he found not guilty?

Screamingabdabz · Today 20:28

Another woman dead. Another abuser free and exonerated to enjoy his life. 😔

WaryCrow · Today 20:31

PrizedPickledPopcorn · Today 19:56

And a quote from the defence lawyer…
“how he was supposed to answer the allegations of a ghost from 10 years ago”

As though she wasn’t making the allegations at the time they happened. Poor woman.

That’s really annoyed me. So if you murder someone and the trial takes a while to come to court, as it increasingly does, you should automatically be exonerated? Because it’s ‘a ghost’ from 10 years ago.

Something has gone very wrong with lawyers. They’re rotten as hell.

impartialusername · Today 20:36

How do the defence actually live with themselves knowing they are defending these monsters?? His new wife is clearly blind she will almost certainly suffer.

QuadrupleH · Today 20:38

impartialusername · Today 20:36

How do the defence actually live with themselves knowing they are defending these monsters?? His new wife is clearly blind she will almost certainly suffer.

Don't want to take this off on a tangent but I don't really blame them. Their job is to defend their client to the best of their ability. Whilst they may have been guilty, we'd also want them to defend you or I if we were on trial of something we were innocent of.

impartialusername · Today 20:40

QuadrupleH · Today 20:38

Don't want to take this off on a tangent but I don't really blame them. Their job is to defend their client to the best of their ability. Whilst they may have been guilty, we'd also want them to defend you or I if we were on trial of something we were innocent of.

yes but in cases where it is blaringly obvious someone is guilty and they have to spread vicious lies and rumours about a woman who was abused and pushed to suicide to win a case is surely something they sit and think about no?!

PauliesWalnuts · Today 20:40

I swore out loud in the office when I read the verdict. Women really are sub-human to some people.

LemonTreeGrove · Today 20:41

Saw this on the news and saw him speak. I totally agree with you OP.

TracyBeakerSoYeah · Today 20:45

If it was proved in court that he was out of the country when the injuries occurred I presume that the jury were going with the evidence & that's why the verdict came back not guilty.
The verdict is only as good as the evidence given in court.

QuadrupleH · Today 20:46

impartialusername · Today 20:40

yes but in cases where it is blaringly obvious someone is guilty and they have to spread vicious lies and rumours about a woman who was abused and pushed to suicide to win a case is surely something they sit and think about no?!

Hard to say, I haven't read beyond the news today. Perhaps some have no scruples, and on the flip side are there prosecutors who take cases suspecting a defendant is innocent? Taking emotion out of it, you say "blaringly obvious" but 12 normal people found him not guilty. Not innocent of course, but not guilty.

Skinnysaluki · Today 20:47

PauliesWalnuts · Today 20:40

I swore out loud in the office when I read the verdict. Women really are sub-human to some people.

Yes me too.
probably the men around me thought I was being hysterical or uncouth or both

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Skinnysaluki · Today 20:48

TracyBeakerSoYeah · Today 20:45

If it was proved in court that he was out of the country when the injuries occurred I presume that the jury were going with the evidence & that's why the verdict came back not guilty.
The verdict is only as good as the evidence given in court.

The way I read it was that maybe she had to wait until he had left the country to go and report them? Since she was under surveillance all the time when he was around

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catipuss · Today 20:59

It sounds as though there was not much evidence, and if he was out of the country when at least some of the injuries occurred it would be difficult to convict him. She had MH issues and took her own life, no one was murdered, how much he contributed to her death we will never know.

Runnyyolkplease · Today 21:21

Having listened to the Trial podcast which goes into a lot of detail on the evidence heard in court, I was not surprised at the verdict. He was out of the country for long periods of time (proven with travel records and colleagues testimony) during which she claimed new episodes of abuse and bruising. She messaged people claiming she was being attacked by him while her phone location shows her on a train to a day out with another friend. Even the professionals involved with her had started to see where her story didn’t add up. She clearly needed a lot of mental health support due to PTSD and didn’t get that help unfortunately. While I don’t think he was a good husband, there was no evidence that he was abusing her - in fact quite the opposite. I don’t think she intended to kill herself though, I think it was a cry for help after a morning of calling round various services and being passed between them all. Very very sad.