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To tell the police to sort their lives out

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Blahblahblahabla · Today 00:39

Police are tracking down dodgy Firestick users.

Whilst technically this is a crime.

AIBU to think no, thats fucking outrageous when you cannot be bothered to go and get someone’s stolen iPhone or other device with a tracker and a clearly know location?!

Not in the public interest.

Well its not in the fucking public interest that Jodie and Aaron have a dodgy fucking fire stick!!!

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politicsdomyheadin · Today 11:17

xILikeJamx · Today 11:08

They go on about Sky Sports or whoever not making a profit and how it harms the business blah blah blah, then you see Sky giving the Premier League so much money that the clubs are paying the likes of Haaland £500,000 PER WEEK while they plead poverty due to dodgy firesticks.

It would take the UK average wage earner 13 years to earn what Haaland earns in one week (not having a go at the player here). Fuck Sky. Vive la dodgy Firestick révolution

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But that’s not the point, is it?

they will, rightly or wrongly, use this as a reason to raise prices. Why should we allow criminals to do that to us?

Blahblahblahabla · Today 11:19

Sky is absolutely without a doubt charging the maximum it thinks people will pay. I guarantee they have a whole team who runs metrics on that.

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Blahblahblahabla · Today 11:19

TeenLifeMum · Today 10:26

Do you sell dodgy fire sticks op?

If only I was so tech savvy 😂

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Tillow4ever · Today 11:20

I personally don’t agree with these dodgy firesticks etc and wouldn’t use one - but I don’t think the police should be going after the users. If they want to crack down on it, go after the people providing the “service”.

I found out a couple of weeks ago that my son at uni has paid £25 to get his firestick to have everything on it. I wasn’t very impressed, especially as we pay for Netflix, Disney, Prime and Sky - all of which he can access. Admittedly we don’t have the movies or the sport on Sky - but you get the movies on another channel eventually, and for sport you go round a mates house or to the pub! Or pay for a Now TV package as and when you want to watch something specific. I really don’t get why he doesn’t just use the logins we provide.

politicsdomyheadin · Today 11:20

Blahblahblahabla · Today 11:19

Sky is absolutely without a doubt charging the maximum it thinks people will pay. I guarantee they have a whole team who runs metrics on that.

So? Because they make money we should allow crime?

xILikeJamx · Today 11:23

politicsdomyheadin · Today 11:17

But that’s not the point, is it?

they will, rightly or wrongly, use this as a reason to raise prices. Why should we allow criminals to do that to us?

That fact that it's unclear in your post whether the criminals you refer to are the Firestick gangs or Sky says quite a lot about the situation!

Taking a near monopoly on a country's national sport then continually hiking the prices to a point of exclusion must surely be criminal.

politicsdomyheadin · Today 11:31

xILikeJamx · Today 11:23

That fact that it's unclear in your post whether the criminals you refer to are the Firestick gangs or Sky says quite a lot about the situation!

Taking a near monopoly on a country's national sport then continually hiking the prices to a point of exclusion must surely be criminal.

It’s not. You’re fine with fraud and theft, fine. But a lot of us aren’t.

Parsleyforme · Today 11:38

The articles on this are very sensationalist and I think the copyright organisation who orchestrated it is hoping the PR will mean people are just scared into not using them. When the police won’t even investigate a burglary I doubt they have time for minor fraud. One article says “The harshest sentences will be reserved for "supplying and distributing TV fire sticks and concealing bank transfers linked to criminal activity".”
But I did read recently that a lot of people have had money stolen from bank accounts as a result of using fake/illegal Firesticks so I won’t be using one

WheretheFishesareFrightening · Today 11:43

Credittocress · Today 10:31

Can’t see how it impacts me in the slightest to be honest.

Whereas vandalising my car left me intimidated and £700 out of pocket.

I don’t see how your car vandalism affects me.

But increasing prices of Netflix, tax evasion (as I’m certain the suppliers aren’t declaring their income to HMRC) and the increasing hoops I have to jump through to access services because of security and to prove I’m not a bot do affect me.

So by your logic I’d prefer they tackle the fire sticks and not your vandalism.

xILikeJamx · Today 11:43

politicsdomyheadin · Today 11:31

It’s not. You’re fine with fraud and theft, fine. But a lot of us aren’t.

Just because it's not illegal doesn't make it right. You could argue Sky/TNT/etc have stolen the national sport from the working class and charging fraudulently inflated prices for access to it. So much so that people are now rebelling in large numbers.

Power to the people

Tableforjoan · Today 11:48

I’d rather then go after burglars, shoplifters, drug dealers, and maybe the people selling and making the dodgy sticks rather than the person just plugging it into their tv.

Oh get those E-scooters as well not Dave and his dodgy stick watching football at home.

Same as the old pirated dvds go after the person making them not the person watching them.

WheresMyHatGone · Today 11:56

Going after the users puts people off using them. If there is no market for them then the gangs have no one to sell to. It's surely not hard to understand that?

imaginary861 · Today 12:10

The police have been pathetic for a long time

Blahblahblahabla · Today 12:29

politicsdomyheadin · Today 11:20

So? Because they make money we should allow crime?

I am saying dodgy firestick users aren’t making our prices go up or down. They are charging the maximum they believe they can like any other private business.

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Blahblahblahabla · Today 12:33

Parsleyforme · Today 11:38

The articles on this are very sensationalist and I think the copyright organisation who orchestrated it is hoping the PR will mean people are just scared into not using them. When the police won’t even investigate a burglary I doubt they have time for minor fraud. One article says “The harshest sentences will be reserved for "supplying and distributing TV fire sticks and concealing bank transfers linked to criminal activity".”
But I did read recently that a lot of people have had money stolen from bank accounts as a result of using fake/illegal Firesticks so I won’t be using one

I hope it is just bluster and they aren’t actually wasting time on this.

But equally can we not reserve this bluster for meaningful things. Like threatening people about e bikes as PP points out. Or saying they are going to hunt down these scooter snatch kids and actually make a token effort atleast to look like they are doing it!

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politicsdomyheadin · Today 12:34

Blahblahblahabla · Today 12:29

I am saying dodgy firestick users aren’t making our prices go up or down. They are charging the maximum they believe they can like any other private business.

They absolutely are.

LostFuse · Today 12:44

Blahblahblahabla · Today 12:29

I am saying dodgy firestick users aren’t making our prices go up or down. They are charging the maximum they believe they can like any other private business.

They absolutely do affect subscription prices...

It is estimated that illegal streaming costs European TV companies over €3.2 billion annually. To maintain profitability and fund expensive content rights (like the Premier League), broadcasters often raise subscription fees for legitimate users to bridge this financial gap.
Companies like Amazon and Sky are spending millions on technical countermeasures, such as transitioning to new operating systems (like Vega OS) and assisting law enforcement in raids to shut down illegal networks. These security and legal costs are often absorbed into overall operating budgets, influencing price hikes.

hahabahbag · Today 13:05

When you steal tv services (yes it’s stealing) all us law abiding people pay extra for your stealing. See also illegally watching broadcast tv without a licence. If everyone pays fairly it would cost everyone less than currently

Credittocress · Today 13:05

WheretheFishesareFrightening · Today 11:43

I don’t see how your car vandalism affects me.

But increasing prices of Netflix, tax evasion (as I’m certain the suppliers aren’t declaring their income to HMRC) and the increasing hoops I have to jump through to access services because of security and to prove I’m not a bot do affect me.

So by your logic I’d prefer they tackle the fire sticks and not your vandalism.

Netflix put their prices up compared to others in the market and consumer tolerance. They don’t say we’ve made enough this quarter let’s keep the prices low 😂😂😂

ColdAsAWitches · Today 13:06

xILikeJamx · Today 11:43

Just because it's not illegal doesn't make it right. You could argue Sky/TNT/etc have stolen the national sport from the working class and charging fraudulently inflated prices for access to it. So much so that people are now rebelling in large numbers.

Power to the people

Oh please! You can't say that they stole the sport from the people because until Sky Sports came along there was one televised game a week if you were lucky. If you want to support the sport, go watch your local team play. Oh, no, very few people do that now, they prefer to watch it on tv, illegally if possible.

TheKittenswithMittens · Today 13:10

Its in The Sun - must be true

Blahblahblahabla · Today 14:38

Credittocress · Today 13:05

Netflix put their prices up compared to others in the market and consumer tolerance. They don’t say we’ve made enough this quarter let’s keep the prices low 😂😂😂

Exactly. They might make more money by saving on all this stuff. But they aren’t decreasing our prices that’s for sure.

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dad11122 · Today 16:57

xILikeJamx · Today 11:43

Just because it's not illegal doesn't make it right. You could argue Sky/TNT/etc have stolen the national sport from the working class and charging fraudulently inflated prices for access to it. So much so that people are now rebelling in large numbers.

Power to the people

Or you could argue that Sky, TNT, etc pay as little as possible (obviously) for the right to show football and that clubs and their owners are the ones stealing the sport?

NotAnotherScarf · Today 17:02

politicsdomyheadin · Today 08:45

Phone theft in London is incredibly rare compared to the number of people in London.

I’d say it’s in the public interest to clamp down on these “fire stick” users because it means it gets more expensive for us all if they don’t

What £110 to watch premier league football each month isn't already expensive?

Yet rape gangs rang amuck in British towns
Coke is readily available in many pubs
Gangs shoplift at will and staff get sacked for stopping them
Knife crime...
Woman kills two children and the investigation is botched
Car speed and have illegal number plates to avoid detention.
On line fraud nets billions

But let's nick people for breaching contract law(a civil matter)

TheBeaTgoeson1 · Today 17:08

How do you think the TV would be funded if people don’t pay for it?