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London and surrounding area has become so unkempt

132 replies

GrubbyTowns · Yesterday 16:58

Rubbish strewn everywhere. All the verges full of cans, takeout detritus.
London and the southeast generally just seems so unkempt to where it was a few years ago even.
Just came back from a trip to Liverpool and the contrast was incredible. A busy city but so clean!
Why is this?

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ButterYellowHair · Today 18:46

In all honesty it’s likely mostly that councils can’t keep up with the cost of social care and other areas like waste management, verges, bins etc are cut. We have an ageing population, a huge amount of illness, mental health issues and people with multiple chronic conditions (a huge % of the over 50s) and a generally unhealthy population relying on taxes to pay for their various care needs while wages have stagnated, industry fucked off and prosperity faded.

We are a nation in financial decline and therefore social decline.

ButterYellowHair · Today 18:55

Dappy777 · Yesterday 19:51

What do you expect? The Left have done all they can to make us ashamed of our history and culture. They have smashed our statues, ‘de-colonised’ our universities, and taught us to despise our national heroes. Why would people take pride in a country where it is controversial to fly your national flag?! I wouldn’t dare hang a St George or a Union Jack outside my house. I’d probably get a brick through my window.

To be honest, I barely feel English or British anymore. I no longer live on an island with a shared history and culture. As for the new identity that is being imposed on me, it means nothing to me. I just care about my own family now. I’ll pay my tax and obey the law, but that’s it.

Well enjoy being miserable. I’ll continue to plug the gaps where you seem to have let rage take your place. I’ll continue to volunteer at the food banks, litter pick, eat meals with those with dementia, grow food and bake for friends and neighbours.

Community is built through giving and open arms not through anger at people being born elsewhere or noting that pillaging other nations wasn’t a great thing to do. Nobody else is going to make your world better for you.

dottiehens · Today 19:14

GrubbyTowns · Today 09:41

And then you told me I was implying it was due to a Muslim mayor.

It’s your way of closing down any discussion you don’t like. You do it all the time.

Race is the left weapon of choice. Make sure you get candidates in key positions that are beyond criticism due to their religion or colour.

lovealieinortwo · Today 19:22

ButterYellowHair · Today 18:46

In all honesty it’s likely mostly that councils can’t keep up with the cost of social care and other areas like waste management, verges, bins etc are cut. We have an ageing population, a huge amount of illness, mental health issues and people with multiple chronic conditions (a huge % of the over 50s) and a generally unhealthy population relying on taxes to pay for their various care needs while wages have stagnated, industry fucked off and prosperity faded.

We are a nation in financial decline and therefore social decline.

This needs to be pinned to the top of AIBU, it’s the answer to many threads!

GoatsOfNavahoe · Today 19:43

ButterYellowHair · Today 18:55

Well enjoy being miserable. I’ll continue to plug the gaps where you seem to have let rage take your place. I’ll continue to volunteer at the food banks, litter pick, eat meals with those with dementia, grow food and bake for friends and neighbours.

Community is built through giving and open arms not through anger at people being born elsewhere or noting that pillaging other nations wasn’t a great thing to do. Nobody else is going to make your world better for you.

Nobody else is going to make your world better for you.

But people seem determined to make it worse for no good reason.

ChardonnaysBeastlyCat · Today 20:06

Yes.

The councils might not have the funds to keep clean, but why are people behaving like savages?

My local park has, or had, rather some lovely flowers, all maintained by volunteers.

Why did some visitors this weekend let their children pick and trample the flowers and why did they not pick up
after themselves?

Bushmillsbabe · Today 22:37

ButterYellowHair · Today 18:55

Well enjoy being miserable. I’ll continue to plug the gaps where you seem to have let rage take your place. I’ll continue to volunteer at the food banks, litter pick, eat meals with those with dementia, grow food and bake for friends and neighbours.

Community is built through giving and open arms not through anger at people being born elsewhere or noting that pillaging other nations wasn’t a great thing to do. Nobody else is going to make your world better for you.

This is so true. In our village I have never seen a council cleaner, a traffic warden, a policeman, council gardener etc (which would see all the time when lived in London). So we have a choice to moan or sort it out ourselves. Most chose the later option, which makes it a lovely place to live as people care and have pride in looking after their surroundings and also each other.

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