To wonder if there will be any fall out from skinny jabs?

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Everyone I know is now suddenly very slim. Okay, im exaggerating slightly, but genuinely, most of my friends who were previously overweight are all now slim thanks to skinny jabs. I am delighted for them! It seems unbelievable to think that a jab can cure this obesity crisis, but I am so pleased my friends and a couple of family members are able to live a healthier life thanks to this.

My only slight concern is, is this something that is going to be too good to be true? Do you think there will be any long term repercussions, or are we right to just celebrate this medication as a cure for something that so many have been battling for so long?

I never said it didn’t exist but it was a drop in the ocean compared with today where being fat is normalised.

Smoking was rampant, and where I lived parents would buy their kids fags. We were thin because we were out all day. Tv was rubbish so we rode our bikes and walked the legs off ourselves. We used to be feral running through gardens playing 40/40 save all.

Sounds like wishful thinking on your part OP

There’s definitely hair falling out. I know numerous people on the jabs and several are complaining about hair loss.

That can happen when you lose weight quickly for any reason, though.

... and where I lived parents would buy their kids fags

While that might have been the norm where you lived I don't think you can say that was the norm in society as a whole.

No, but we lived in an area that was pretty typical for working class. We ended up moving to Norway as my Dad got a job there for a few years and we escaped the recession. The food was better, McDonalds arrived after we had been there a couple of years, and there was a lot less smoking.....

That’s a rapid weightloss thing that can happen whatever methodology of weightloss you follow, it’s not a WLI specific thing. It’s also temporary and grows back.

Poorer heating too. Central heating was a rarity in the 50s and 60s, and I expect we all remember/have heard stories about ice on the inside of windows in the winter. You can use a lot of calories keeping yourself warm in the cold.

The factors are likely to be multiple, which isn't surprising. Some of the changes, such as less playing out because there's no longer space due to cars, are sad. Some of them, like better heating and fewer teenage children smoking, aren't.

I had some hair loss when I first started. I also had hair loss with several other weight loss attempts. The only difference is WLI help me stick to healthy eating and some of the other methods were questionable and did not lead to anything remotely healthy or sustainable. Hair loss isn’t caused by WLI.

Probably no worse than the implications of obesity.

Do people believe these drugs aren’t vigorously tested before being approved? Do people know how long it actually takes for a drug to gain approval?!

Forgot about the cold! Everyone had a gas fire in the living room and when it got super cold you left the doors open and left it on low overnight. Crowding in front of it in your highly flammable nylon nightie after a bath trying desperately to get warm!

Hair loss isn’t caused by WLI.

Hair loss of people on WLI is caused by malnutrition - whether it's because of the appetite suppressing effect on them of the drugs, insufficient protein and minerals etc when they do eat, or it's that their GI tract is so dysregulated they are not producing sufficient pancreatic hormones to extract the nutrients from the food they eat. Or it is also possibly a direct side effect of the drugs themselves.

A drug that slows stomach emptying drastically and lowers gut motility. What could possibly go wrong.

And hair loss in people not on WLI but losing weight in another way?

Telogen effluvium which is the temporary hair loss that can happen when you lose weight is not caused by malnutrition. It’s a temporary thing, caused by reduced calories for a sustained period of time. It’s temporary, if it happens at all, and self resolves after a few months.

It’s bizarre that people are so keen to tell obese women that even if they manage to lose weight they’ll lose their hair, like it’s some kind of righteous punishment for losing weight. Or being obese in the first place, or something. I

The flip side of that, is that I don’t think I’d ever call somebody else’s body abnormal.

I understand but the normalisation of obesity is part of the problem and was not how nature intended it to be. There is huge profit in obesity!

To the extent that nature intends anything, it was for us to face the constant threat of starvation. That's what humans evolved in, and to withstand.

You are more than welcome to recreate those conditions for yourself if you like, and by that I mean actual periods of starvation not anything like IF or 5/2, but I'm not sure how much company you'll have.

There’s huge profit in weight loss as well.

Unless we’re suggesting the cost price of WLIs is £100+?

One of the things I dislike about them is that it’s profiteering either from insecurity or health issues.

If they are so worthwhile, make them more readily available through the NHS, so people concerned about their wellbeing don’t have to shell out for it.

Absolutely there is profit on both sides. At least the WLIs work but the long term cost to health is unclear.

Its very sad to see medicine going this road but, as always, there’s $ to be made.

If you grew up eating fresh food, freshly prepared, I would very much doubt that you are overweight.
If you grew up eating processed food, you may be overweight.
If you grew up being stuffed with sweets and crisps, there is a goid chance you could be overweight.
If you think there is a magic cure, there is not. As a PP said, obesity is a money maker.
Any kind of invasive action will have consequences. I suspect that 10 years or so down the line the result of weight loss injections will be seen in other health-related issues.

Wegovy has been around for 20 years so is well established and safe. An online doctor reviews your medical history and prescribes it, if you choose that route, so I don't know why you have such concern.

You don’t need to go to that extent these days thankfully. Although a 2-3 day water fast is a wonderful thing!

Just eat real food and the rest is easy.

Indeed, there's plenty of money been made from slimming clubs and programmes with appallingly high failure rates. There's people who did very well out of the unfortunate and unpalatable fact that nothing tackles obesity on a societal level, long before WLIs. And that's even before considering how much Big Pharma got out of obesity related conditions.

There’s money to made however it is sliced. Just look at Zoe, a big advocate of whole foods, selling over priced bags of seeds.

I suspect big junk food companies will find a way to profit from it all, such as specific meals aimed at smaller appetites, like when tobacco companies started investing in nicotine patches.