Jobs advertised before the end of FY

[wardobe123]

Jobs advertised before the end of the FY will be the higher salary based on annual uplift?

I saw a job advertised end of Feb and again end of march, will already have annual uplift applied?

At my company, recent hires (less than a year) aren’t usually eligible for the next annual pay rise. Though it depends what is negotiated at the start and other factors (eg cost of living, inflation, company performance etc). So it can vary.

The other lesson I’ve learnt from others is that in the private sector at least, the starting salary can often be negotiated. I’ve heard so many stories of usually men negotiating better pay, title, conditions beyond what’s in the job ad. I’m actually impressed as it would never occur to me to apply for a job with a lower salary than I’d need with a view to negotiating it above the advertised band. But others do & it’s often worked for them.

At my company pay is the same to everyone who has the same job role and pay is fully transparent (everyone knows what everyone else earns). So yes, you’d get the annual pay increase to ensure parity with others doing your role.

Other companies and organisations will be different.

Not sure I understand your question OP. The stated salary will reflect what is on offer. So if they advertised in Feb and March it'll show the rate of pay for the current FY.

Also per PP, always ask for more, particularly if you can benchmark the role to a competitor etc. In my last three roles I negotiated significantly higher starting salaries than advertised.

Everyone gets an annual increase.

My question is that a salary was advertised just before the new FY and I don't know if the salary includes the annual increase or not

At my company there are no pay rises if you’re new in post (even internal promotions) but I imagine this varies by company.

Yes it should reflect the 26 27 salary. It's a mistake on their part if not as they're advertising a role that would be appointed in the new FY. But mistakes happen all the time! Worth checking.

I don't know when it would be appointed. It was advertised the first time and no successful applicants

I would expect the salary to be the salary. That may change at the next point of uplift. Jobs advertised now likely won’t start before June. In my industry, we get our uplift in August.

Seriously? Everyone gets an annual increase.

Unfortunately you are living in a Dreamworld there, lots of jobs and sectors don't get an annual pay increase and we have to battle every few years for a pay increase to even attempt to match inflation.

Don't call me an idiot. How rude!

Stop being an idiot then

Maybe provide appropriate information in your OP then.

Can't give half information and then expect random people on the internet to know what you are talking about.

Good luck getting a job 🙃

It will depend on the company. Current job - no such thing as am annual increase, not even an inflationary rise.
Previous job - everyone got an inflationary rise.
Job before that - you had to have been in post for at least 12 months to be eligible for bonus and payrise. Payrise and bonus were both performance based, and you didn't get one if on a PIP, but could be quite good if exceeding expectations.

So it depends on the employer and your contract.

If you’re an internal candidate, ask HR. If you’re external, then you can ask if you’re offered the job - presumably you’d want to try to negotiate anyway, and they will offer you the job at a particular figure even if a range was advertised.

You could also try to work it out - if the figures on the ads in Feb and in March are the same, then it seems reasonable to me to assume that no uplift was added for the March ad. But equally they might have advertised at the higher figure in Feb knowing a new person wouldn’t be in post until after the turn of the f/y.

The only way you’ll know for sure is by asking.

I'm asking as I know for sure the company increases as I work at the company

Pfffft asking in real ,life

It totally depends on what the reward framework is - at my company we have collectively bargained where everyone in that group gets the pay award in April - including any new joiners. We also have personal contract - and anyone who joins Feb - June wouldn’t get a pay review till 2027.

It's not necessarily a mistake. At my organisation the advertised salary is taken from the HR system and is correct at the point the advert goes live - we can't manually amend it to reflect a future pay rise.

It's the same with our employment contacts, which reflect the salary at the time the contract is issued. In some instances the annual increase takes effect between the contract being issued and the start date - the new starter receives the increased salary, not the salary on their contract.

OP: you need to ask the employer.

Again. I know it's April, I work for the company

Is it public sector? No, the advertised pay won’t include any pay increase awarded from April, but the successful applicant should receive the higher pay.

What planet do you live on? There are many, many jobs out there that won't get a guaranteed annual increase. You are aware that we're in a significant financially challenging period and that economists are predicting a global recession?

If you already work for the company you must know how annual increases work. I'd proceed on the basis of the advertised salary being the right one, unless the advert is very out of date. Is the annual increase a cost of living increase applied across the company or is it dependent on performance and length of time in the role? If it's a COL increase and you already work there, you'll know what the increase will be as it apply to your current job. So is it 2%, 2.5% etc?

Do you only want the job as it pays more money than the one you have?
Or is it more interesting, more long term promotion possibility etc?

That's a bit unfair because if it's an annual COL increase OP will know if her current role will pay more from 6 April.That increase would be applied now.

That percentage would apply to all roles, from what she's said.