Little baby misogynists

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There’s something a little off with militant “boy mums” who treat male children differently to female. If you don’t teach your boy that emotions are important, that he should think of others’ feelings, if you don’t check him for being loud, inattentive and obnoxious, if you don’t teach him how to cook/ clean/ do laundry by the time he leaves high school…..of course you’ve just cultivated a manchild who’s only going to go forth and sap the life out of whatever he comes across. There’s nothing special or strong about being a man anymore…a woman can earn her own money, buy her own house, raise her own kids etc. His best chance at happiness is having the skills and emotional intelligence to fit into family life. I’ve read a few things on here written by people who are at a loss with what to do with their teenage sons who, despite their mothers, are now showing signs of red-pill crap, have flung verbal abuse at female teachers, are spouting tripe etc… and I just think…so stop giving them money. Cut the internet off. Pause family holidays, embarrass the shit out of them at the school gates. Like…just show them that a woman has a huge say in what their life looks like rn and they can move out and live on the dole all by themselves if it’s so disagreeable to them. 🤣 wtf am I missing? Get these wee f*cks tellt!

Some otherwise sensible feminist women I know go absolutely weird about their sons. I have heard women I otherwise feel really like minded with come out with some really disturbing views (rape myths / demonising little girls / the standards they hold sons pretty much on the floor). I’ve never had a son so admit I don’t understand it.

Honestly when it comes to disrespectful, violent to their parents and non-compliant behaviour like school refusal and running away, girls are as responsible as boys. There are many, many parents who are held to ransom by their female teenagers in one way or the other. Siblings too.

As for being domesticated, I definitely don't think that's nearly as gendered as it used to be. I think it is cultural where some demographics just don't teach their children those types of life skills because they outsource the work and feel their children will be better than having to clean their own space or cook a decent meal.

On top of that, with girls, you are more likely to have all the sexuality and identity stuff with labels and pronouns etc. God forbid you if you do not get that exactly how they think you should.

I think we just have to accept that we have started parenting our girls as badly as we have been parenting our boys for generations.

Nah. Girls don’t get the massive slack cut that SOME boys do from their mothers. It’s not the same. When you see it you know.

I think that's completely untrue. I think these days, if someone tells you they have a problematic teen who won't attend school, its as likely to be a girl as a boy. In my personal circle, the people I know and work with? Definitely more likely to be a daughter than a son..

With girls, people.just assume someone must have hurt them for them to be acting so ungirly so it isnt really their fault.

Girls can be an absolute nightmare no one is denying that. But boys are more likely to be lauded from a young age than girls. It’s weird. I’ve seen it over and over again.

Again, I dont think that is the any more. For one, more people want a girl than a boy these days. So the boys are already coming into families as a second or even totally unwanted choice. That doesnt set you up to be favoured, as girls have well known for centuries.

Great. Another person frothing about something that they've made up in their own head

Go outside

Ive parented two girls now late teen and have a wide network and I have observed this over and over again with some mums of boys. Not the mums you would expect to be like this either.

An experienced barrister said the worst jury of the prosecution in a rape trial were women with similar aged sons.

How would the barrister know the personal circumstances of all of the jury?

I have raised two boys and two girls. The things I noticed from a young age (and some might be related to race but I see the same things happen to white boys tbh).

One example is how boys are always assumed to be the aggressors in a situation. This was even the case when one of the girls were in an incident with a boy. They were assumed to be innocent. Thankfully I know them well enough to know when that was not the case.

I agree with all these things OP has said and put them into pracitce with our parenting - HOWEVER; I really do notice a difference in the way schools treat boys and girls. I think we've gone past equality in many ways and favourable treatment is being placed on girls, which is causing this resentment in boys. This resentment is then preyed on by the online arseholes like Andrew Tate.

Although perhaps girl parents would say the same in reverse but with different things. Im not saying my reality is the only reality and that others are not important. You asked for counter points - here they are.

Examples from my experience (sorry it got a bit ranty lol):

Son has been sick at school (physically sick) and still told to just tough it out and continue. On 2 other separate days hes had such a bad headache that he's come home and cried '- so about 3 times in total in year 7 at new school.
All 3 times the school refused to let him go home. My friends daughter - is 1 year above, same school and last term, they sent her home 3 times in 1 week. Her mum even told the school that she is blagging it - they still called her a 4th day that week because DD was crying. She has no temperature, its not period related and there's no mental health issues. I've heard the same story from a few other parents too. WHY??? Why cant boys be vulnerable/sick and get help??

In primary school - year 6 - my son was subject to violence from 2 girls on 3 different occasions in a 3 week period. Slapping him across the face, pulling his hair and pushing him. I had to tell him not to react (because it would be 10 times worse to tell my son to hit them back and then make it acceptable in his mind, to hurt a female - although understandbly - he saw this as double standards). The school did fuck all about each incident until I asked them very confrontationally - what they would do if this was 2 boys constantly hurting a girl. They then confessed they had not even told the parents of these 2 girls, despite my complaints.
Then... later that month the school called to say my DS and 2 other boys were "being unkind" to a girl and "couldn't name any names" and her parents complained about their DD coming home upset because my DS told her she was "rubbish at football". I talked to my son about it after school - getting ready to roast him. Until he told me that the girl they referred to was the girl who had hit him 3 different occasions. I called the school back and highlighted that they are calling me after some words spoken and 1 complaint. Yet I complained 3 times about actual violence and got nowhere. I told them not to call me about further incidents to do with this girl unless serious.

Girls can be very nasty to the boys in sneaky ways - talking very nastily to them in a whisper, scowling at them, creating in-jokes about them and its very hard to prove they are doing this. The same can be said for girl on girl teasing, of course, but if boys report being the victim, nothing is done. However - If a girl reports a boy is making her uncomfortable by doing a similar thing - then the schools red flag would go up immediately and they would treat it as a whole big incident.

There’s nothing special or strong about being a man anymore…a woman can earn her own money, buy her own house, raise her own kids etc. His best chance at happiness is having the skills and emotional intelligence to fit into family life. I’ve read a few things on here written by people who are at a loss with what to do with their teenage sons who, despite their mothers, are now showing signs of red-pill crap, have flung verbal abuse at female teachers, are spouting tripe etc

So women don't need men, until such time their boys hit adolescence and they have no male role models or boundaries and they can't control them?

There is a mountain of evidence that children bought up in single parent households have worse outcomes in life on nearly every measurable scale. This would suggest that men can make a small contribution to raising children and benefitting society.

Hope my posts aren’t taken as criticism of all mums with boys. Just been away with 2 families parenting their 13 year old sons brilliantly. Lovely lads as a result.

Massively disagree with this. Particularly when you look at crime statistics. Also, girls and women have for basically their whole lives been held to a standard created by patriarchy. The boys are part of that. Further, the sexualisation of young women is brutal and always has been. Nowhere on earth can I think of where this is not true. Society may be changing slowly but for young girls and women, it is dangerous in much the same way it always has been. I accept there are girls (and women), who can be just as troubled and chaos causing as males, but I don’t think it’s in the same numbers.