My jeans are having an identity crisis

[BeMoreBear]

Here's a Saturday if-a-tree-falls-in-the-forest question (votes not necessary)

If you had a new pair of jeans, and, after having been washed, the label that read "size 12" came off and disappeared into the black hole that is your washing machine, to reveal another label that reads "size 14":

would you be justified in maintaining that said jeans, which fit perfectly before the "size 12" label fell off, are still a size 12, and have not magically become a size 14 just because the "new" label says so?

In other words:

YABU: the jeans were clearly a size 14 to begin with, and someone obviously put the wrong size label (12) on before you bought them

or

YANBU: since you shelled out a not inconsiderable amount of money for jeans that were labelled "size 12" when you bought them, and they fit you when they said you were a size 12, the "size 14" label underneath is clearly a mistake, which the makers covered up with the correct label. Hence, you can still call them "size 12 jeans."

I know that we all have bigger problems in the world. And our politicians are complete fuckwits. And deciding who to vote for in May is like my cat trying to decide which side of the tree to fall down (the thorny rosebush side or the side that leads to the neighbours' Dog). And, of course, there's the Trump/WW3 thing.

But, as some lighthearted relief on a Saturday that is already turning out to be NOT what I had wanted it to be (not because of the jeans), would be interested in your thoughts.

ps. The jeans still fit perfectly. What does this mean???

Do you have another pair of jeans from the same brand you could use to compare the size!?

I do not.

But, good suggestion!

I'd think they were actually size 14 all along, as that was the original label. That may make me a pessimist. However, I still have nicely fitting jeans, and no-one else is going to see the label.

Also, you wouldn't be unreasonable either way.

Here's hoping your Saturday gives you no more drama. 😄

I was going to say it's such a faff to re-label a whole batch of jeans, the makers must have made a mistake with the odd pair.

Now that I've typed that, I wonder if the odd mistake would actually be spotted. I suppose it depends on the level of quality control.

How much did they cost?

It means that brands have no consistency and sizes are pointless. The manufacturer has made too many "14s" and chucked a "12" label on it but the jeans are actually whatever waist, hip, and leg length you are. Enjoy the well fitting jeans.

Cut out the size 14 label and if anyone asks (why would they??) say they are size 12-14.

Theres only a tiny difference between a 12 and 14 anyway. What does it matter as long as they fit?

Thank you! I should be so lucky... but there are still 12 hours left in the day!

Let's just say, I had more money than sense when I bought them

I’m not getting if they have been mislabelled twice - so the size 12 label has fallen off revealing underneath a size 14 label - which has thrown you?

Or if all you’re saying is you thought you bought size 12 but they’re actually a 14 per the label?!

Either way it is weird when something you’ve bought turns out to be different to what you thought but if they fit ok I’d be good with that.

Excellent point! (I still feel vaguely ripped off, somehow-I know I need to get out more)

I bought a pair of size 12 jeans recently. I bought them because size 12 was on the label and that’s what I usually buy in jeans. When I tried them on, there was no way they were a size 12. I compared them with a pair I already had, from the same place and there was at least six inches difference in the waist. They were a size 10 at best, or maybe even size 8. It’s a lottery. I reckon you just have to try stuff on and ignore the label.

Yes, it really makes no sense, and actually makes no difference because I still like then, and they still fit. It's just... bothering me, and I'd rather complain about this stupid non-problem than have to deal with the other issues which have just arisen this morning!

Is it an international brand? I always feel slimmer in the US because a UK size 14 (if there is such a thing) would be size 12. Does mean I have seen size 0 there which I find weird - wonder if there are minus clothes?

Minus clothes!!
Thanks for the laugh, I needed that!
I think they may be an international brand, good point.

Isn't a UK 14 a US 10 (so a US 0 is a UK 6)?

Pretty sure they go to double zero for the next size down.

@BeMoreBearif you got them online you’d have proof of the size you purchased. Or some receipts show the size if it’s really niggling you!

Blame the jean manufacturer's quality control.

American sizes at 4 smaller than UK sizes so a US0 is a UK4. My 5'0" daughter is a size 4, she's absolutely tiny, there can't be many that are smaller than her.

If they fit, why does the size label matter?

Good thinking, Batman, but I bought them in a shop, and got rid of the receipt because I decided to keep them.

It doesn't really, just wondering for a while now why it might have been so, and was standing around, trying to stay out of the way of the emergency plumber (I say plumber, but it was an emergency drain person, it's not the "clean" type of plumbing.)
Just trying to make something funny out of a miserable start to a Saturday.

Sorry, hope nobody's eating lunch!

It is a while since I was there. I know we have vanity sizing in the UK, I have same size and style and shop from years ago that are much smaller. It did only used to be one size down for me in America