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AIBU for getting angry with family dismissing SA allegations

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KIttykittykat89 · 18/04/2026 07:15

Am i being unreasonable to feel absolutely furious with how things are getting dealt with? My sisters husband (28) has been accused (SA) by both of our nieces, one is 10 other is now 18. 10 year old came out with a very specific story, she had the date and exactly what happened. Telling it very clearly, after she came out with it earlier, my 18 year old niece told of an experience she had when she was around 12 and a few others.

Now obviously this is a sensitive subject and i get that people lie, but the way these girls by my family are getting called liars, trouble makers and completely dismissed is actually really upsetting me... Everyone keeps saying he is too nice, too good with kids to do it. Now the reason why i personally believe them is because the things they've described solely, without input from anyone else are things he tried to do to me, i obviously called it out, he was brushing past my body and touching my bum/thighs every single time at first i thought i was crazy, but it kept happening. One day we was alone at my parents house, i was cleaning for my parents (i am near 30) and he came down stairs with only boxers on and a visible hard on i felt so unsafe as the only two people in the house PLUS ive given no signs, signals etc and hes with my sister, so he is a risk taker and quite brave to do that, i remember feeling pure shock as i known him for so many years and i walked out the house and just cried basically. I obviously told my sister but she didnt believe it and said i was misunderstood so since then any brushes or anything i feel are instantly written off. Well my nieces described exactly the same, brushes past on their bum and they both said he flashed their penis to them. The 10 year old remembers the exact day as it was by Christmas and she literally detailed how and when it happened (seeing his penis) and the story was identical to my sisters in terms of what they all did that day. Shes taken his side (and my father has) completely and is calling them liars trouble makers etc.

She (and my dad). said bcus the kids have had a 'tough' home life they are lying to cover up for someone else. I got mad today because they are calling them all sorts of names, dismissing the claims and even told the girls dad that hes a liar too as he is going to the police. My dad has said some questionable things, like he keeps saying he is 100% innocent (over his own grandchildren), and he said there's no way he would ever, he wouldn't dare and that he doesnt want my nieces to come at all to my moms house anymore, i cant say that he 100% did it but, i have a gut feeling and i haven't slept all night and my first instinct is to protect especially the 10 year old. Am i being unreasonable for wanting to fall out with these people for my nieces?!

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KIttykittykat89 · 18/04/2026 12:26

tokennamechange · 18/04/2026 12:08

I can understand, though not agree why your sister is going to the wall for her husband, but I agree OP, it's really weird that your dad is supporting his son-in-law over his own grandchildren, son, (their dad) and daughter (you). Same with your other brother. Why are they so desperate to protect him?

You're doing the right thing OP, there's a chance the testimony of an adult confirming similar behaviour might make all the difference.

Yeah she's in denial, everyone 'loves' him honestly he integrated his way into our family for so many years, he gets on with everyone on the surface kind of guy. Now his reaction when confronted with these allegations, he wasnt very shocked? Like hes taking it too well... i mean apparently there's no correlation between my story and theres as im an adult, and IF it did happen to me(my mom has believed me from the start) it doesn't make him a pedophile etc.

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DuskOPorter · 18/04/2026 12:37

@KIttykittykat89 just support your nieces and tune out your father and sister and their issues. You have been sexually assaulted by this man too. He is a predator.

Similar in my own family. The abuser gets a free pass, the victims are supposed to carry the abuse silently.

Police haven’t done much, it would surprise people to realise how few historic abuse cases go anywhere when the immediate response is always to go and tell the police, I think people would be genuinely disappointed if they actually realised 1) how prevalent sexual abuse is 2) it is actually not something just other people do it is something that happens in your family too and your loved ones do it too 3) it is very rarely prosecuted and if it is prosecuted then it is still going to be a problem in the family as people don’t accept it.

KIttykittykat89 · 18/04/2026 13:29

Well my dad is just a nasty person, he seems so defensive when it comes to SA allegations? I am majorly shocked, hes actually acted more upset by it than BIL himself. Making me question things honestly

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Bababear987 · 18/04/2026 13:32

KIttykittykat89 · 18/04/2026 13:29

Well my dad is just a nasty person, he seems so defensive when it comes to SA allegations? I am majorly shocked, hes actually acted more upset by it than BIL himself. Making me question things honestly

Why is your dad so willing to accept losing half his family for this man? Does he not believe you either? How many womens voices does he need to hear to believe over this one man?

Im so truly sorry this is happening

Mama2many73 · 18/04/2026 13:37

KIttykittykat89 · 18/04/2026 12:26

Yeah she's in denial, everyone 'loves' him honestly he integrated his way into our family for so many years, he gets on with everyone on the surface kind of guy. Now his reaction when confronted with these allegations, he wasnt very shocked? Like hes taking it too well... i mean apparently there's no correlation between my story and theres as im an adult, and IF it did happen to me(my mom has believed me from the start) it doesn't make him a pedophile etc.

No just a sexual predator then...so thats ok!

I feel so proud of you x

thecomedyofterrors · 18/04/2026 13:42

I can’t follow the relationships or who knows about these allegations. But it seems to be being dealt with by family dynamics.
Have the police been informed?
Have both schools been informed?
These girls need protecting and potentially alot of therapy and support.
Please contact a local safeguarding team today.

KIttykittykat89 · 18/04/2026 14:08

thecomedyofterrors · 18/04/2026 13:42

I can’t follow the relationships or who knows about these allegations. But it seems to be being dealt with by family dynamics.
Have the police been informed?
Have both schools been informed?
These girls need protecting and potentially alot of therapy and support.
Please contact a local safeguarding team today.

The girls dad has contacted the police and we are waiting for them to contact us, i assume they will talk to him and the children first (he has the girls). We are waiting for updates, BIL and sister have went to his family home so are not anywhere near the girls or myself.

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KIttykittykat89 · 18/04/2026 14:11

thecomedyofterrors · 18/04/2026 13:42

I can’t follow the relationships or who knows about these allegations. But it seems to be being dealt with by family dynamics.
Have the police been informed?
Have both schools been informed?
These girls need protecting and potentially alot of therapy and support.
Please contact a local safeguarding team today.

Her mother will contact and sort the school, as these are my brothers children he is dealing with it directly and i will give my truth to the police when they come, i am supporting the girls atm.

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luckylavender · 18/04/2026 14:13

KIttykittykat89 · 18/04/2026 09:59

Hi so sorry yeah BIL has been accused, my nieces dad (my brother) wants to kill him but so many are defending and i can see hes gonna worm his way out so ive told my brother im.happt to speak to the police!! I didnt sleep a wink last night

So have you spoken about your experience to the family?

RS1987 · 18/04/2026 14:16

Of course he did it, that isn’t in question and should never be. Support these girls in getting justice and get this animal caged up.

KIttykittykat89 · 18/04/2026 15:02

luckylavender · 18/04/2026 14:13

So have you spoken about your experience to the family?

I did when it happened and was instantly dismissed and that i was misunderstood.

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KIttykittykat89 · 18/04/2026 15:04

My sister was adamant that due to his reaction, how calm he is and how he is waiting for the police that he is innocent. My brother reported it this morning to the police so when i have updates i will write here

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KIttykittykat89 · 18/04/2026 15:10

Mama2many73 · 18/04/2026 13:37

No just a sexual predator then...so thats ok!

I feel so proud of you x

Thank you so much!

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ColdWeatherWarning · 18/04/2026 16:11

Thank you for believing and supporting them. And I'm sorry he was a creep towards you, too. Hoping you'll all get some justice. (Oh and your dad's an utter prick, sadly I have similar in my family)

BuckChuckets · 18/04/2026 16:13

KIttykittykat89 · 18/04/2026 15:02

I did when it happened and was instantly dismissed and that i was misunderstood.

I'm sorry they didn't believe you, and that they don't believe your nieces (or simply don't care?). They sound absolutely vile, and the rest of the family will be better off without them in your lives. Well done for staying strong.

ThisJadeBear · 18/04/2026 16:33

Good for you, your brother and your mum.
Because of the three of you, these lovely girls are not alone.
I think your own experiences are going to be key. You may be an adult, then is an older teenager and a young girl of 10 and I because of that he has tried to create confusion. What he is doing is about power and control, abusing three generations when he is 28 himself. It’s absolutely sickening.
His own wife is in absolute denial - she’s going to be in for a shock when he gets questioned. The most guilty people tend to be calm as you like.
Your poor mum - I feel for her as she must wonder what on earth your dad is playing at?
The main thing is that these girls do have protective adults. Keep being brave in their behalf.

MxCactus · 18/04/2026 16:52

OP you're doing an amazing thing and will be protecting the girls by reporting your experiences to the police. Well done!!!

And ignore your Dad, he sounds like an absolute idiot. You're absolutely doing the right thing x

user2848502016 · 19/04/2026 10:16

KIttykittykat89 · 18/04/2026 09:59

Hi so sorry yeah BIL has been accused, my nieces dad (my brother) wants to kill him but so many are defending and i can see hes gonna worm his way out so ive told my brother im.happt to speak to the police!! I didnt sleep a wink last night

That good that at least their Dad is being supportive.
You giving a statement to the police will be really helpful and probably the best thing you can do to support your nieces. Let them know you believe them 100%
Do they live with your brother ? Just wondering if their mum is around and is she supportive?

KIttykittykat89 · 19/04/2026 10:38

user2848502016 · 19/04/2026 10:16

That good that at least their Dad is being supportive.
You giving a statement to the police will be really helpful and probably the best thing you can do to support your nieces. Let them know you believe them 100%
Do they live with your brother ? Just wondering if their mum is around and is she supportive?

Yes she lives with her mum and my brother has her on the weekend. She is and she is really upset and just wants to honestly, get her hands on him as she also trusted him and has known him for a long time etc. I'm not sure where he is atm, but we have spoken to the police. I assume he will be at his family home.

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KIttykittykat89 · 19/04/2026 11:55

He has been denying it of course, he is adamant it is lies saying he doesn't even remember Christmas time. She asked my mum if they could go back home and stay (they lived their for 11 years) my mum told her she is welcome but he isn't. He is acting very calm, my sister is speaking for him too I've noticed. Everyone else is more visibly upset over this than him and he is the one accused. My sister said it is because he know they are lying and is even saying he is going to file a report himself against the girls for lying!

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MxCactus · 19/04/2026 12:18

Well done OP. What does your sister say when you say he also SA you? Does she say you're lying too?

BlueMum16 · 19/04/2026 14:25

KIttykittykat89 · 19/04/2026 11:55

He has been denying it of course, he is adamant it is lies saying he doesn't even remember Christmas time. She asked my mum if they could go back home and stay (they lived their for 11 years) my mum told her she is welcome but he isn't. He is acting very calm, my sister is speaking for him too I've noticed. Everyone else is more visibly upset over this than him and he is the one accused. My sister said it is because he know they are lying and is even saying he is going to file a report himself against the girls for lying!

I'm glad your mum is standing her ground and supporting her GD.

KIttykittykat89 · 19/04/2026 14:27

Well, my older niece has for some reason lied and told everyone that she told me last year about what he did, and she absolutely did not. I spoke to her yesterday and she gave me both of their full stories, it was all news to me. She is no longer contacting me, i have tried to call and message but she isnt answering and she is now avoiding my mum too but she is online. I just asked why she said that.

Now my brother is saying he can't believe i knew and didnt say anything or do anything when i absolutely did not. I am really confused 😕

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GreenGodiva · 19/04/2026 18:02

KIttykittykat89 · 19/04/2026 14:27

Well, my older niece has for some reason lied and told everyone that she told me last year about what he did, and she absolutely did not. I spoke to her yesterday and she gave me both of their full stories, it was all news to me. She is no longer contacting me, i have tried to call and message but she isnt answering and she is now avoiding my mum too but she is online. I just asked why she said that.

Now my brother is saying he can't believe i knew and didnt say anything or do anything when i absolutely did not. I am really confused 😕

It’s not unusual for children to lie , but the accusation of abuse is often still true. It can be incredibly difficult to deal with and I told a friend that my dad was abusing me ( he wasn’t) baddest I needed to talk about it and try to make sense of it and was terrified of the hit that WAS hurting me. I didn’t even think about my dad getting in trouble, I was just trying to get some of the pain out and make sense of it in my head.

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