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Neighbour boundary dispute with diagram!

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Opalflamingo · 17/04/2026 23:47

For starters a timeline…

2014 this house built on land between two others a boundary fence was put round as per in position on plans
2016 we purchased and moved in
2021 neighbour with issue moved in
2022 cut down all tall beautiful hedging changed two fence posts on our fence and put up crappy lattice on top of half the fence that kept blowing down is now discoloured and mismatched with the grey fence put in by the builders who built this.

so basically the fence round our garden needs changing.
This neighbour it’s her boundary
however it is our fence
I tried talking to her when she added trellis and changed two posts….both whilst we were out at different times. She basically said it is what it is and waved me away. She is quite difficult to have a conversation with. She’s retired from a job and position where she had a position of somewhat power and stance and clearly can’t step down in her head as she questions and intimidates people working in the street etc and has literally made it her business to know everyone’s business in our small street. It’s to the point where I feel I have to warn anyone working on our house she will be round asap.

I am not a shy person I’m not someone to be intimidated but her tone etc does something to get me flustered.

Anyways we want to update the garden and need a new fence on our boundary the other side. We would like it to match and want to put in expensive composite fence which would be a whole lot better than 12 year weathered wooden fence.

Today i got a couple of small pots very lightweight very small pots that loop over the top of the fence.
I hooked them over the trellis in an attempt to hide it with a small trailing fast growing plant.

She was out there in seconds saying it wasn’t safe and what was I doing. I said trying to hide the ugly discoloured trellis.

She said but it’s mine
I said yes but you put it on my fence when you cut down the lovely hedges.
She replied no it’s my fence my boundary
I said no it’s my fence probably on my land as the builder put it in all round the plot and this was agreed by previous neighbour in front of their henges that has grown lots over time that had formed a previous border over a very small old wired fence apparently.
She replied well I’ve maintained it and I replied yes but still not yours (and no permission just presumption)
She claims it’s on her land.
I said look I’m going to put a new fence in composite no maintenance etc
She replied well I’m not giving you permission to come onto my land to replace it. I like it (an old weathered fence) but I can replace the fence at the back of my garden (she owns the tiny strip behind the back fence. I said I am not bothered by that so much as there’s lots of greenery in front of it.

Anyways it was left saying check your land registry etc and other things well I happened to have all these on hand and looked at plans on planning permissions and it turns out the fence is on my my land
what’s more her path/side down the side of her house I own. She put a back/side door in and I didn’t question this when she put in retrospective planning permission. Previous owners had no door there or gate to access as was massive trees/bushes

Now I know the fence is mine on my land
Now I am a petty minded person when riled so now I literally want the new fence to the boundary and reclaim about two foot of land out of principle. She’s created a large flowerbed where she took down the thick bushes which mainly is on my land it turns out.

I can also prove the fence belongs to this property so would I be petty to remove the fence except her two poles she replaced and her trellis. Also the one along the back.
She was adamant she wouldn’t give me permission to replace it and told me to knock down my built in planters to fit it on my side.

Even if the fence was bang on the boundary line would she suddenly own it upon buying the property? I can literally prove it was put in by the owners of this house. She is adamant it’s hers.

so am I being unreasonable to claim back the land meaning she wouldn’t be able to use her door easily and that side access to her garden which is mainly on my land and or am I unreasonable removing the fence so she has to replace it hopefully on her correct boundary.

For a little more context she had said some quite hurtful smarmy comments about my disabled son and has got my back up with other things she’s said before including not trimming the tree that hangs over the fence causing damp and making it go green and causing us to have sweep it all up in autumn and dared to moan when a few bits of paint peeled off a wood panel on our house
and landed in her garden (2 leaf size bits)

I am now considering building a conservatory there as it would benefit my son as an add on to his playroom and give him better access/facilities as I believe we can add ten per cent to the house without planning permission at least we were sold that idea when purchasing but not sure if true.

Luckily my sons solicitor is coming to discuss his trust fund as my son owns the house purchased after settlement for negligence so I’m hoping he will go there and say yeah we are changing the fence lol
Another reason we would like to replace with something more sturdy is he often goes at speed crashing into the fence either in his wheelchair or go kart despite me telling him not to, it happens.

anyways thoughts? Ideas?
im guessing my diagram will take time to be approved it hope it helps!!

Neighbour boundary dispute with diagram!
OP posts:
AbzMoz · 18/04/2026 03:33

Re ownership of fence, the property info usually says which boundaries who is responsible for maintaining. Re the path - if that’s not on her land and there are no access rights or easements - then get the fence extended and out into the front (ie one continuous line). You can install whatever fence you want on your own land (obviously subject to height) without impeding on the official boundary of that is hers.

It’s less about the awful lattice and more about the land and the path. I’d say in writing ‘as the fence posts and path were moved and altered significantly without my consent last year and are inconsistent with the land schedule, I am getting new fencing installed at the property boundary. This is after consultation with surveyors and confirmation that plans are consistent with the schedules. This fence will be up to my boundary and you are not permitted to damage or alter it. I will ensure the old weathered fence and lattice are available should you wish to reinstall them on your side per the official boundary.’

strongly urge pause the discussion on conservatory til the property boundary line issue is sorted).

Notquitethetruth · 18/04/2026 06:14

She is truly a CF. Get everything done legally and cut short any conversations she might wish to have. There is no point in going backwards and forwards with her. Get the solicitor to sort it, reclaim what is yours. No using your land for easy access. Allow it to continue too long and she can claim she has rights. It all stops now. No further interactions.

Excellent diagram.
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CheshireDing · 18/04/2026 06:49

Why has it been designed with her having a thin strip at the back ? Where does that go?

What does the actual land registry plan look like and what do your deeds say ?

JustJoinedRightNow · 18/04/2026 06:59

Go all guns blazing OP and reclaim your land.

PrizedPickledPopcorn · 18/04/2026 07:06

She put a side door into her house, without checking that the access was hers? So was the hedge she removed also on your land?

tinyladybird · 18/04/2026 07:09

Reclaim your land, tell her to F O and then don't speak to her ever again.
I am so fed up of reading about people like your neighbour. Why can't these people just get on with their lives and stop interfering in others.

JacquesHarlow · 18/04/2026 07:13

Hi @Opalflamingo

I’m sharing this kindly , but I would strongly suggest please stop “arguing” with your neighbour , and get a solicitor. ASAP.

You might resent having to pay for one, but see it like car repairs or insurance premiums rising after an accident. You didn’t deserve to have to be landed with a bill, but equally, these events happen.

Regarding paying, it shouldn’t be the earth either - you just need a strong letter that establishes what the boundaries are and why her installation is not permitted.

The reason why I’m saying solicitor is because your excellent description of her makes me realise that she is never going to listen to you.

nevernotmaybe · 18/04/2026 07:16

Opalflamingo · 17/04/2026 23:47

For starters a timeline…

2014 this house built on land between two others a boundary fence was put round as per in position on plans
2016 we purchased and moved in
2021 neighbour with issue moved in
2022 cut down all tall beautiful hedging changed two fence posts on our fence and put up crappy lattice on top of half the fence that kept blowing down is now discoloured and mismatched with the grey fence put in by the builders who built this.

so basically the fence round our garden needs changing.
This neighbour it’s her boundary
however it is our fence
I tried talking to her when she added trellis and changed two posts….both whilst we were out at different times. She basically said it is what it is and waved me away. She is quite difficult to have a conversation with. She’s retired from a job and position where she had a position of somewhat power and stance and clearly can’t step down in her head as she questions and intimidates people working in the street etc and has literally made it her business to know everyone’s business in our small street. It’s to the point where I feel I have to warn anyone working on our house she will be round asap.

I am not a shy person I’m not someone to be intimidated but her tone etc does something to get me flustered.

Anyways we want to update the garden and need a new fence on our boundary the other side. We would like it to match and want to put in expensive composite fence which would be a whole lot better than 12 year weathered wooden fence.

Today i got a couple of small pots very lightweight very small pots that loop over the top of the fence.
I hooked them over the trellis in an attempt to hide it with a small trailing fast growing plant.

She was out there in seconds saying it wasn’t safe and what was I doing. I said trying to hide the ugly discoloured trellis.

She said but it’s mine
I said yes but you put it on my fence when you cut down the lovely hedges.
She replied no it’s my fence my boundary
I said no it’s my fence probably on my land as the builder put it in all round the plot and this was agreed by previous neighbour in front of their henges that has grown lots over time that had formed a previous border over a very small old wired fence apparently.
She replied well I’ve maintained it and I replied yes but still not yours (and no permission just presumption)
She claims it’s on her land.
I said look I’m going to put a new fence in composite no maintenance etc
She replied well I’m not giving you permission to come onto my land to replace it. I like it (an old weathered fence) but I can replace the fence at the back of my garden (she owns the tiny strip behind the back fence. I said I am not bothered by that so much as there’s lots of greenery in front of it.

Anyways it was left saying check your land registry etc and other things well I happened to have all these on hand and looked at plans on planning permissions and it turns out the fence is on my my land
what’s more her path/side down the side of her house I own. She put a back/side door in and I didn’t question this when she put in retrospective planning permission. Previous owners had no door there or gate to access as was massive trees/bushes

Now I know the fence is mine on my land
Now I am a petty minded person when riled so now I literally want the new fence to the boundary and reclaim about two foot of land out of principle. She’s created a large flowerbed where she took down the thick bushes which mainly is on my land it turns out.

I can also prove the fence belongs to this property so would I be petty to remove the fence except her two poles she replaced and her trellis. Also the one along the back.
She was adamant she wouldn’t give me permission to replace it and told me to knock down my built in planters to fit it on my side.

Even if the fence was bang on the boundary line would she suddenly own it upon buying the property? I can literally prove it was put in by the owners of this house. She is adamant it’s hers.

so am I being unreasonable to claim back the land meaning she wouldn’t be able to use her door easily and that side access to her garden which is mainly on my land and or am I unreasonable removing the fence so she has to replace it hopefully on her correct boundary.

For a little more context she had said some quite hurtful smarmy comments about my disabled son and has got my back up with other things she’s said before including not trimming the tree that hangs over the fence causing damp and making it go green and causing us to have sweep it all up in autumn and dared to moan when a few bits of paint peeled off a wood panel on our house
and landed in her garden (2 leaf size bits)

I am now considering building a conservatory there as it would benefit my son as an add on to his playroom and give him better access/facilities as I believe we can add ten per cent to the house without planning permission at least we were sold that idea when purchasing but not sure if true.

Luckily my sons solicitor is coming to discuss his trust fund as my son owns the house purchased after settlement for negligence so I’m hoping he will go there and say yeah we are changing the fence lol
Another reason we would like to replace with something more sturdy is he often goes at speed crashing into the fence either in his wheelchair or go kart despite me telling him not to, it happens.

anyways thoughts? Ideas?
im guessing my diagram will take time to be approved it hope it helps!!

Things are not as simple as people think. and if you are going to be petty you need real impartial legal advice.

Plans on the land registry do not give actual legal boundaries. They give rough ideas, and can be challenged sometimes easily.

The only way to get an actual real boundary is to get one determined, such as making a voluntary agreement with neighbours and have it signed and registered, or hiring a specialist surveyor for this work to figure it out. I would say I am not convinced a surveyor would just give you land regardless of what the plans say, if it has never been actively used and maintained by your property ever at any point. They could well consider it a mistake, and have that as their recommendation.

Some other issues to consider, under law there is a form of adverse possession that is effectively automatic and can't be challenged if applied for. In paragraph 5 of Schedule 6 there are three conditions that allow this, the third is potentially relevant here "The third condition is that the squatter has been in adverse possession of land adjacent to their own for at least 10 years under the mistaken but reasonable belief that they are the owner of it". Basically if the fences have been there since 2014 your neighbour believed it was theirs, that land behind the fence is now your neighbours if they want it for certain.

Nowvoyager99 · 18/04/2026 07:30

If you can afford it I would build a fucking wall!!

And yes, reclaim the land she has stolen.

parietal · 18/04/2026 07:32

Definitely get a lawyer. But I’d also advise taking a subtle approach. Because turning a disagreement over a trellis into an all out way with the neighbour will end up in misery.

we had a similar minor dispute with a neighbour and I consulted the lawyer and got definitive advice on what I owned. DH wanted to have the lawyer write a stern letter saying “this is what we want”. But neighbour was a difficult character and I wanted to avoid a war. So I got the lawyer to write a clear letter addressed to me saying “I’ve examined the boundaries and this is the position”. Then I wrote to neighbour saying- it will benefit both of us to have this done correctly without disputes. Attached is the advice of my lawyer, what do you think”. And neighbour agreed the changes without a fight. And less legal fees

by sharing the advice of my lawyer and presenting it as a issue we needed to solve together, I think it made it easier for neighbour to agree.

Echobelly · 18/04/2026 07:33

Before you go the legal route, I'd recommend trying dispute resolution. There are people who specialise in doing this around property and its much cheaper and often more effective than going to a solicitor - look up property dispute resolution online to find someone, ideally someone accredited by RICS

Dollymylove · 18/04/2026 07:39

First get solid advice and confirmation she has stolen your land.
Second speak to the police regarding her comments about your disabled son

Bristolandlazy · 18/04/2026 07:42

Go for it, she'd fuck you over in a heartbeat. What a miserable women. You should reclaim any land that is yours and she should be ashamed of herself making comments about your son.

ItsEitherAMasterpieceOrADisasterpiece · 18/04/2026 07:47

As @nevernotmaybe said.

Plans on the land registry do not give actual legal boundaries.

this. often featuring a 1-metre margin of error^

You are going to be for a whole heap of expense, stress and upset if you go in guns blazing.

Booboobagins · 18/04/2026 07:56

She sounds awful BTW, so big hugs. But be careful as boundary disputes cost people their homes.

I would ask to sit down and look at the land registry info with her, find a nice coffee shop to meet at, if she'll even meet you. Look at her plans and yours, agree to get a surveyor in to mark out land ownership.

If you don't care about losing the small area she has now planted up, you may agree to a new fence that's yours on yoyr land without hassle. If you want your land within the new fence line it's probably going to be a battle, but you're within your rights...

Ref the access, check and double check if she has access rights before blocking it off.

My neighbours expected me to let them park on my land because I asked the builders if I could use the tarmac Ed area as a driveway - it's a private road and was marked as shared. They agreed and it was changed on my plans as my second driveway. I put my house number on the fence and they have been pissed off since. This month I let them know I wasn't going to use it for a while so they could park there. My house numbers have been removed from my fence, so I'm going to permanently fix numbers to the fence and reset up my cctv. Some people are born CFs.

BlueMum16 · 18/04/2026 08:03

Definitely get legal advice.

I don't think you can reclaim the land beyond the fence as the build choose to mark your boundary with a fence. Yes that is your fence and you can replace it fully. You should have removed her trellis and I would probably do that no anyway.

As for the access to her house, if this wasn't discussed at the time you need to get legal advice and get this resolved now. It might be that you own this strip of land but she can have right of way/access over it to access her property due to you not contesting her doing this before. If the land was given back to you what will it actually achieve? Would you use it for anything? Access to your house or garden? Bin storage etc?

It's good your son has a solicitor who will be coming out soon. They will be able to see the lay of the land and give you advice.

AnonymousLibrarian · 18/04/2026 08:20

A charter surveyor would be able to clarify and mark the boundary on your land. They would literally come out and mark it with pegs.
She would probably throw a fit, so you would need a solicitor. There are people who deal with conflict resolution.
Citizens advice might be able to give you free guidance.

Mustreadabook · 18/04/2026 08:28

Booboobagins · 18/04/2026 07:56

She sounds awful BTW, so big hugs. But be careful as boundary disputes cost people their homes.

I would ask to sit down and look at the land registry info with her, find a nice coffee shop to meet at, if she'll even meet you. Look at her plans and yours, agree to get a surveyor in to mark out land ownership.

If you don't care about losing the small area she has now planted up, you may agree to a new fence that's yours on yoyr land without hassle. If you want your land within the new fence line it's probably going to be a battle, but you're within your rights...

Ref the access, check and double check if she has access rights before blocking it off.

My neighbours expected me to let them park on my land because I asked the builders if I could use the tarmac Ed area as a driveway - it's a private road and was marked as shared. They agreed and it was changed on my plans as my second driveway. I put my house number on the fence and they have been pissed off since. This month I let them know I wasn't going to use it for a while so they could park there. My house numbers have been removed from my fence, so I'm going to permanently fix numbers to the fence and reset up my cctv. Some people are born CFs.

Your neighbours bought a house next to shared land they could park on. You asked the builders to give you extra land and they gave you that land. And you can’t see why the neighbours are annoyed?

Mumofoneandone · 18/04/2026 08:39

Check if your house insurance covers any legal fees/issues.

EvangelicalAboutButteredToast · 18/04/2026 08:41

Boundary disputes are expensive. I would do everything I could to avoid one of those.

Neemon · 18/04/2026 08:44

Nowvoyager99 · 18/04/2026 07:30

If you can afford it I would build a fucking wall!!

And yes, reclaim the land she has stolen.

This 100% !! It’s not petty, it’s yours.

Shatteredallthetimelately · 18/04/2026 13:04

Have a look on 'Garden law forum', some good advice from people in the know that could possibly guide you on the best action to take.

Tableforjoan · 18/04/2026 13:16

Just remember nobody wins in a boundary dispute. They cost a bloody lot.

Just replace your fence and give her legal official proof it’s yours and that she cannot touch it.

Lamplight101 · 27/04/2026 22:37

Have there been any developments over the past week OP?

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