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AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

Would your DM behave like this?

21 replies

teine · 15/04/2026 14:06

Hi everyone.

Just wanted to share somethings my DM has done down the years for some perspective. I think I'm done but just want to find out if this is normal behaviour for some.

As a child we weren't allowed to have friends around, we also weren't allowed to go to friends or play outside. She was 'too tired' to take us to the park. There was always a feeling of threat or disapproval that stopped us pushing for more freedom. I just wouldn't have dared.

As teenagers if we were allowed on sleepovers or to see a friend my father would be sent to drive past and we would have to come to the window and wave to prove we were there. I remember being terrified that my friends suggested going half a mile down the road to blockbusters to get a film incase he appeared while we were out. I was 16/17 at that point.

I bought my own phone from money I'd earned but I wasn't allowed to speak for long on the phone, I had to hang up if I laughed too much. Wasn't allowed on the sofa sometimes.

When I went to university locally, I moved out in secret because she chased me up the stairs and pulled my hair out for putting credit on my phone - but eventually reconciled a few months later. I was accused of being on drugs because my flat window was open in November - never touched drugs in my life.

I met someone at this point who seemed like a springboard into a life without them, he has turned out to be a fantasist and ending up being incredibly emotionally and psychologically abusive. Our 17 year marriage ended with his affair.

While separating from him and dealing with his two subsequent suicide attempts and a sectioning, she told me that what I was going through was my fault.
That I should have nipped his behaviour in the bud years ago instead of letting him walk all over me.

She's made comments about my appearance, said I was a state. Yes, my self care has decreased because everything else has been overwhelming over the last year.

She becomes obsessive with seeing my DC. For instance last year she insisted on being in the car when my father offered a lift to the airport (roughly 10 miles) but on motorways. To fit in she wanted me to take the kids' car seats out so she could fit. I said no about a week before we were due to depart, she called and messaged everyday asking me to reconsider, my father offered to drop her at the airport before getting us, none of it was acceptable. In the end he took us but just as we were getting out the car he told me they'd be unable to help with childcare going forward. I ended up in tears as this was the last week of the summer holiday.

She is paranoid and invents things that I've supposedly done, for example my brother has cut her off. She is obsessed with the notion that we speak everyday and coordinate ways to be horrible to her. The reality is I've spoke to my brother once since christmas. She wants to see messages which I've refused because then that just hands her power, but to her my refusal is evidence.

She blanked me for weeks on end, until we're in front of other family members who she doesn't want to look bad in in front of so will suddenly speak as if nothing is wrong.

This is just off the top of my head but she's just turned up at my door again, after not speaking to me for two weeks, full of cheer and then confusion when I declined them to come in. This led to more accusations at my door about my behaviour and attitude. Another thing she likes to do is shout things in the street about how awful I am, she has slammed the front door so many times.

I'm just exhausted. There's nothing comforting or nice about having them around even going through the worst part of my life so far. When I tried to explain how distraught I felt at the time when everything was falling apart she said well how do you think I feel?

She accuses me of trying to be middle class all the time, I've never understood this one. I have a job and always have, I rent, I'll probably never be on the property ladder, I don't have expensive clothes or shoes. I do prioritise experiences for my DC over these things. I am well educated but that's through my own hard work and dedication.

It's not just me, one of the worst things I've heard from her was directed to my brother's wife whose mum had early onset dementia. When she had to be put into a nursing home, the next argument they had with my brother, she started asking DB's wife where her mummy has gone? kept saying it over and over.

To me she will say, what's wrong? what's so hard about your life? Are you going to cry? Typing this out I think the answer is clear. I just don't know why she is like this. I can't imagine what it must be like to have a warm parent relationship.

Even with my father, as a teen we used to talk about her and he'd express how unhappy he was. Obviously that's wrong of him looking back but he did acknowledge her behaviour. Now it's like he's brainwashed, he just blindly believes these things she comes up with. I haven't had a private conversation with him in nearly twenty years because everything gets reported back. If he ever gives me a lift to a garage or something similar then she has to be on the phone in the car.

I guess my AIBU is

IABU - no one is perfect
YANBU - go no contact

OP posts:
WasThatACorner · 15/04/2026 14:12

She sounds like my DM. So much of what you have written sounds like my life.

Been NC with both of them for almost 20 years now and I can't put into words the feeling of relief.

Edited to add... I remember your airport post and hoped then that you would use the latest distance from her to see that you can do just fine without her.

Nollie · 15/04/2026 14:13

My sympathies, OP. My DM was no saint but she looks wonderful next to yours. She obviously has issues, but frankly, that's down to her to fix. I would not hesitate in going very low contact because she is a force for damage. You need to find a way to manage your own expectations of her. Looks like she's not capable of kindness or empathy. It's a shame about your father but again, not your problem to fix. I hope you find happier times.

mumonthehill · 15/04/2026 14:13

No this is not normal. It is not loving and caring. You deserve so much more. Please take yourself out of this and take steps to allow yourself to let them go. They have an unhealthy relationship with each other and with you. You cannot change them but you can and should protect yourself. You will never make them happy or get their approval and you need to make peace with that. You sound as if you have been through so much so be kind to yourself.

TittyGajillions · 15/04/2026 14:13

She sounds mentally unwell, it's OK not to have any contact with her in future.

DreamingOfGeneHunt · 15/04/2026 14:16

Mine is very like that, especially the inventing things I'm meant to have done and punishing me for them- happened a lot as a child/teen.

It's not normal. I don't know what it is though.

Trainup · 15/04/2026 14:21

its a big jump to no contact. Can’t you just cut it down and set clear boundaries? Don’t accept any help from them again. Don’t answer the phone or respond to messages except on your own terms.

teine · 15/04/2026 14:41

Nice to know I’m not alone. I think the other issue is the lack of accountability, like if I sat down and try to explain how hurtful these things are there is zero chance she would listen, it would be countered with what I’ve done wrong. I just hope I’m doing a better job, I’d hate for my kids to feel like this about me one day.
thank you for your kind words too x

OP posts:
thepariscrimefiles · 15/04/2026 15:13

Trainup · 15/04/2026 14:21

its a big jump to no contact. Can’t you just cut it down and set clear boundaries? Don’t accept any help from them again. Don’t answer the phone or respond to messages except on your own terms.

Why on earth would OP want contact with her awful mother though? OP's mum is a malevoent narcissist and she isn't a safe person for OP or for OP's children.

OP owes her absolutely nothing. That woman gave OP a hideous childhood and she hasn't mellowed with age. No contact is exactly the way to go.

BauhausOfEliott · 15/04/2026 15:14

Honestly? She sounds utterly insane and abusive and I wouldn't want to be anywhere near her ever again. Nor would I want her anywhere my kids.

thewonderfulmrswatson · 15/04/2026 15:15

She sounds mentally unwell OP. None of this is normal. I'd have nothing to do with her myself from now on.
Remember, you're not a child any more, use your womans voice and words if need be to tell her such. You suffered a great deal as a child, don't let her make you a miserable adult too 💐

BauhausOfEliott · 15/04/2026 15:16

Trainup · 15/04/2026 14:21

its a big jump to no contact. Can’t you just cut it down and set clear boundaries? Don’t accept any help from them again. Don’t answer the phone or respond to messages except on your own terms.

You can't 'set clear boundaries' with someone who is abusive. She has repeatedly demonstrated that she doesn't respect boundaries. You're massive oversimplifying what is a clearly an extremely dysfunctional and damaging relationship.

Classiclines · 15/04/2026 15:19

Trainup · 15/04/2026 14:21

its a big jump to no contact. Can’t you just cut it down and set clear boundaries? Don’t accept any help from them again. Don’t answer the phone or respond to messages except on your own terms.

I take it you have no experience of what it's like to have a mother like OP's?

Yes OP should go no contact. Her mother sounds mentally unwell but there is nothing OP can do to help her. And why should OP let this woman make the rest of her life unhappy?

Tel12 · 15/04/2026 15:20

She's unwell and nothing you can do will change that. I'd go NC for your own peace of mind. You've done and put up with more than most.

Namechangedforspooky · 15/04/2026 15:24

The line that stood out for me was you telling her your difficulties and her saying ‘well how do you think I feel?’
I actually laughed out loud, not because it’s funny but because it’s sadly so much part of the script. I have experienced exactly that line many times.

My mum is a covert narcissist, it took me until I was 50 to realise what was wrong and only then when people pointed it out (colleagues with similar mothers).
Your post is very familiar, the control, the intimidation, the lack of addressing your needs, the absolute lack of empathy. Read about covert narcissism and see if it fits.

Ive tried to go low contact with mine now but not break off my kids relationship with her but it is very hard. I won’t go into too many details here but I could write a book about her abusive ways.

It helped me to get a bit more understanding via books / online but in the end I think to just have to look after yourself as best you can. It is sadly quite common

Weeelokthen · 15/04/2026 15:32

Fuck!!!. That was a horrible read, op. Go no contact, today.
You have amazing inner strength to have come so far, well done.
How does that feel, seeing your life with her written down. Read it back to yourself when you have a wobble and think of having her in your life again.

gamerchick · 15/04/2026 15:33

She sounds mentally unwell and it's got worse as she's gotten older.

I'm NC with my mother but she was more death by a thousand cuts and taking pleasure when I was hurting in some way.

I'd just stop. It's a shame about your dad (and mine tbh) but it is what it is.

Squareblack · 15/04/2026 15:37

You poor poor pet.
That was a horrendous read.

Do anything you can to never see her again.
I think you should consider going to the police and report the years of abuse.

Your parents are both horrors.

HisNibs · 15/04/2026 15:39

I remember a thread before about a DM insisting on coming to the airport to see the kids away on holiday even to the extent of removing car seats. Was that one you OP? This seems so familiar
Dm wants me to forgo car seats. Wwyd? | Mumsnet

She's truly awful, nuttier than squirrel shit. There is no reasoning with people like her, their utter belief that everything they say and do is the correct and only way cannot be negotiated.

Dm wants me to forgo car seats. Wwyd? | Mumsnet

So we are going on holiday this week. Df has offered to drive us the ten miles to the airport which was gratefully received. It's about 10 miles, on m...

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/5390418-dm-wants-me-to-forgo-car-seats-wwyd

Vroomfondleswaistcoat · 15/04/2026 15:45

What a dreadful woman she sounds.

My mother could be 'difficult' and used to say weird shit about me, but I came to understand how damaged she was and we came to an understanding. I really don't think that would be possible for you, OP, as your mother is SO utterly awful that I really don't think anyone would blame you for going NC for your own welfare.

Whyarepeople · 15/04/2026 15:49

She sounds genuinely unwell - paranoid, anxious, volatile. It must have been so hard to grow up with that.

You are not required to deal with this any longer. It is up to her or your father to recognise that professional help is needed. You can and should walk away, for your own welfare and sanity.

EnjoythemoneyJane · 15/04/2026 16:39

No, OP, of course none of this is normal, as you already know. And YADNBU to be done with it. I was done with it and raging on your behalf just reading your post, so fuck knows how you’ve managed to deal with her for a lifetime.

She sounds narcissistic, controlling, paranoid and completely unstable. The psychological and emotional damage she will have done to all those around her across decades - including you - will be immense. It also sounds like she has almost as much of a stranglehold on your adult life as she did on your childhood.

Breaking free will be difficult but not impossible - your brother has already done it. You really need to focus on the fact that she’s not been in any way a nurturing, loving or kind mother to you (can you even imagine treating your own children this way?), and you should not allow her to manipulate and emotionally blackmail you into feeling guilt and obligation towards her. Her problems are hers, as an adult, to deal with.

If you’ve done no reading around dysfunctional family dynamics, enmeshment, FOG or narcissistic parenting, that would be a good place to start (plus there are a number of very good psychologists and doctors on YouTube who talk about these kinds of problems, and techniques for successfully protecting or extricating yourself). And obviously get some therapy, if you can afford it.

Your life will be so much happier, healthier and freer without her in it. At the most she needs to be at a very, very long arm’s length and you need to feel the relationship is entirely controlled by you, on terms and with boundaries you’re comfortable with.

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