Weird fomo / anxiety about WLIs?

[yellowgarden]

Does anyone else feel like this? I’m overweight. Have struggled for years to lose weight. Weirdly I rarely gain, I’ve been this weight for 20 years but find it really hard to lose, it’s a constant source of mental load and upset.

Everyone seems to be on WLIs. Everyone is talking about it. Everyone I know who has been overweight for years is suddenly tiny. Everyone on social media is tiny. Every weight related post is encouraging people to go on WLIs for their health etc. everyone I know is talking about the amazing benefits not just from weight loss.

I feel like I absolutely should be on it too as everyone will think I don’t care about my weight or my health and I’ll never lose weight without them. I have this weird fomo for this life everyone else has (sort of, it’s hard to explain). I actually can’t take them due to a serious medical complication from cancer treatment and it’s contraindicated - which is why I think I feel weird. I don’t even have the choice like other people. I would also really really struggle with the cost but that’s irrelevant I guess as I can’t even take them!

I feel like I’m going to be the last fat person standing 🥲

I sort of feel similar but the reason I haven't started them is primarily the cost but also I don't see how people can be on them for the rest of their lives...and if people stop taking them completely surely eventually they'd gain weight again?

I feel rubbish now but I know id feel even worse if I got slim, felt amazing, then stopped the wli and put weight on again. I just dont see how being on them forever doesn't interfere with your health.

But being fat forever interferes with your health, that’s why people choose the option that they think will have a better overall outcome.

You have my sympathies. Being over weight often has the same underlying causes as underweight but treated so differently.

try hypno therapy. It works.

I felt like that last January. In the end I took control and I’ve lost 3.5 stone calorie counting. I felt everyone was getting slim and did have fomo so joined in in my own way

I tried them a couple of years ago and within a few weeks felt so awful like my guts were full of cement. I was doing all the things everyone said and still I felt so terrible. I quit and lost weight without them and felt mostly pretty good a long the way even if it was a bit slower. Compared to friends I know who lost weight on the WLI's I've kept my weight off longer without gaining and my general health and fitness is better. Not to diss the injections I think they are a great tool for many people but its still possible to reach your goals without the injections.

The long term side effects are the big unknown and also it doesn’t matter how or what you use to control weight - it’s what’s in your mindset that matters most at the end of the day. My mindset for WL is to stay at 29.9 or below BMI - even though I know BMI is a load of 🐂 💩 - so I don’t get gaslit by medical professionals (gynae) for not being fit for future procedures or treatments as the criteria is 30 or below.

Hope my rambling makes sense

Every week there's a new story about side effects. Im in the same boat basically been the same size for 30 years.

As long as you are not morbidly obese I think you will be ok... clearly if you can't walk.a mile due to your weight then get the jab

Do you mean people will be on the wli for the rest of their lives then?

I know being fat is bad for you but surely being on the wli forever us worse?

As well as the costs and the hassle.

Don't get me wrong, im very jealous of people who are now slim on them. Ive heard lots of brilliant stories about them. My t problem is I comfort eat, and I can't see how without the injections I could manage that.

Um we do know the long term effects, they’ve over 40 years of data
and the drugs bring their own health benefits, ie curing kidney liver and cardio vascular disease, as well as reduced cancers etc, so staying on them long term is very beneficial. The risks of obesity, the number one killer in society are huge, and the risk of regain is high for all people who were obese.

op, I’m surprised it’s so prevalent in your social circle, are you maybe focused on social media and not real life. As in real life only about 10 percent of the eligible population is on them. So 90 percent is not. You maybe jist have an unusual social circle.

Over the last few months it seems to have exploded. I was sat in the hairdressers and there was 8 people in there (4 hair stylists and 4 customers inc me) and there was a big conversation about them and all 7 said they were on them (bar me obvs)

There is 3 of us in my work team and the other 2 are on them and it’s hot topic in the office.

Im not throwing any shade on anyone who is on them (and let’s not descend into which is worse) it’s more about this weird feeling I have about me.

thanks everyone who feels a bit the same. And good to see losing weight the old school way is still working. I have some hope!

@socks1107 have you found that people assume you’ve used WLI? I lost just under 3st last year using Noom and I have found quite a few friends seem to think I’ve used WLI. It’s kind of frustrating, not because my traditional method is somehow a superior method, it’s just annoying to be asked and when I say no to clearly not be believed. As for keeping the weight off, that’s the hardest work whatever the method.

@yellowgarden those who have lost weight by a method other than WLI still exist!

Hear me out…. In a weird way, I think you are lucky this is contraindicated. It is only getting more and more expensive and, while GLP ones have been around for the best part of four decades, they have never been tested at the levels they are being administered. We will see more and more people suffer from them. I believe there is a class action going on in the states because some people have lost their eyesight.
I tried them – Mounjaro and Ozempic - and had hideous side effects with both. Some of the side-effects that caused me to give them up seem to be ones that people stick with and think are okay, like constant nausea, and chronic constipation. And part of me has felt I’m so crap because I can’t seem to develop the willpower to lose weight the normal way, and I can’t even be successful with these jabs. But ultimately it is about finding a way that suits you.
The two approaches I have found most powerful are the human being diet, by Petronella Ravenshear, and bright line eating. BLE is super expensive but has programs that incorporate psychological support. HBD - you can just buy the book and start it yourself, though I would recommend reading through a few times. I have failed sticking to either – my willpower is on the floor. But when I do have a good run, these are the most successful approaches I have discovered.
Good luck!

There are class actions for everything in the USA, 😂 and of course they were not tested on the same amount of people in real,life. There is over 50 million on globally.

you do understand the trial protocol and what’s required to bring a drug to market, right, what is done in the 15 years of trials? Just it appears from your post you don’t. Which I suspect means you don’t take any meds your doctor suggests?

If it makes you feel better I put on most the weight i lost on WLI. I had to stop due to cost so maintained for a few months and now apart from about 4lbs it’s back on. I wasn’t at goal maybe half way there

People don’t seem to have problems with hearing diabetics have to be on insulin forever or people, like me, who have to be on blood pressure medication or thyroid replacement medication forever. They are obsessed about the terrible future for people on WLI drugs that’s apparently inevitable.

I do t think they really make much difference to the comfort eating. Well in my experience if it’s not hunger making you eat they won’t help.

The ones I’ve recently started stop you feeling hungry. I never really had a problem with that I never really have eaten much in the day/struggled with hunger. I’ve got PCOS and basically learned to manage those symptoms not to eat breakfast or lunch or I’d gain weight. I’m fat because I ate healthy 3 meals a day when pregnant for my child and now im back to no breakfast or lunch and the weight won’t shift because I have a healthy dinner with the kids and then crisps/chocolate/equivalent once kids asleep. I’m not hungry when I eats shit having not long had dinner but I still ate it. WLI have made no difference to that craving/habbit just stopped me feeling thirst if anything! so once I’ve finished what I’ve got currently I won’t be renewing

Suspect a bit of self soothing going on.

What does that mean?

Yes, I understand trial protocol. I’ve worked for Astrazeneca. I’m well aware of it. If you’re so aware of it , you’ll also know that drugs often come to market, even after extensive trials, and then get taken off because there are terrible problems with them. Ozempic is already being associated with a 30% increase in osteopenia, they think related to the lower diet intake and muscle loss. Gastroenterologists can literally see if someone is on WLIs when they open them up in surgery - the damage and change is visible. Anyone who thinks you can take them without consequence is living in ignorance.

@curious79 I have been on Mounjaro for almost 2 years now. I’m concerned about what you say about gastroenterologists being able to tell that people are on this medication due to “the damage and change” presumably to the digestive system? Could you point me at the evidence for this, as it’s very alarming and I’d like to know more?

Part of that is down to digestion being slower, so normal pre-op protocols for emptying the stomach and intestine are less effective. They do now ask about GLP-1s when you're preparing for a procedure.

@gwenneh I’m aware that Mounjaro slows digestion and that there may be a need for different pre-op protocols. That’s not what I was asking about. I was specifically interested in the “damage and change” that’s immediately evident to gastroenterologists on inspecting during surgery. That sounds like a very serious and dire side effect, something that hasn’t been communicated to me by any of the pharmacies that I’ve used. So I’d like to learn more about it.

It's probably not true so doubt there'll be any evidence forthcoming tbh

have you thought about surgery? Would that be an option for you?
I tried WLI years ago and was soooo poorly. And the price didnt help either!
I had surgery this year and it’s the best thing I have ever done.