To think that the kids programme 'Tracy Beaker' is really not nice??

[Love2bake]

My DS (7) likes this programme, but I find the character Tracy really rude. She is always shouting at the other kids AND adults and I find the attitude just horrible.

I had a talk with my DS and suggested to him that we didn't have it on any more because it's just not a nice programme. He agreed with me.

I actually can't beleive that the BBC show it.

What do other parents think of it??

yes, I hate it. I think it really affected my dd1's behaviour - she got all lippy and shouty .
Don't have a problem with JW's books at all though.

I have only seen a bit of the tv programme but I agree it's not that nice. Which is a shame as I like the JW books very much (including Tracy Beaker), and so do my dds.

haven't watched it for years but never liked Tracy much - I know she was troubled but she was just very rude and not very nice.
Ds used to have a Fizz doll from Tweenies which seriously altered his behaviour - he was very petulant when he had her around so we ended up hiding her in the understairs cupboard and then gave her away..tv can be very powerful !

I hate it, she's thoroughly obnoxious & I don't let dd watch it (not really a problem because we don't have TV - but she's seen bits of it at friends' houses). I have a friend who loves it (& all JW's stuff) because it's 'realistic', frankly I'd rather my children were exposed to something more uplifting.

god it's vile and the books too;

dd5 has gone through a stage of loving it and brought home a library book one.. I had to change some of the texts as it was about punching somebody in nose and making it bleed etc etc

I hate hate hate it.. in fact I hate it as much as hate vile Bratz

I hate it too. It's not meant for 7 year olds thought - I would stop her watching, love@bake.

not allowed here, and DS understood why and agreed (ish).

Actually, King Stupid, and various others where the overall ethos is 'loser!' make me v cross. About to ban King Strupid too.

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I have banned it in my house. The message that Tracey Beaker is horrible because she doesn't feel loved goes way over my DS1s head (7yrs). He just thinks she is cool so it is cool to be rude and obnoxious.

TBH - to understand Tracey you would have to be about 12 and I think most 12 year olds wouldn't want to watch it.

WT - I think you are so right.

yanbu I don't like it either it is too shouty for our house ds is 7 and he has agreed that it is not a good programme to watch

oh chill your beans one and all.

I'm not convinced that a 7yo won't get that message. My 6 and 8yo dds read the books and the 6yo does understand the issues that JW deals with. I'm not sure they come across as well on the tv programme, but I like the books because they do deal with issues my dds come across. Their parents aren't separated and they don't live in a children's home, but they know plenty of other children in varied family situations including having had a best friend who did grow up partly in care (and was often rude and obnoxious at school, aged 4), so it's not totally remote from their experience.

Basically, Tracey Beaker is for children mature enough to understand that Tracey acts the way she does because she is damaged by her upbringing. I think it's pointless blaming the author for a reader not being old enough to understand the message. Jacqueline Wilson IME works very well for a mature 9-10yo (dd and I had some very good discussions about her books) and that's who should be reading or watching her. Would personally prefer my children to read about that sort of thing rather watch it, as I think the act of reading encourages a much more thoughtful approach. I agree with Fennel that JW deals with the sort of issues that our dc's may well come across during their school day; I have found them a useful point of departure for talks.

hmm. at the beginning of term i asked dd1's yr 3 teacher not to let her have JW books at will, as i'm not altogether convinced of the 'message' for a 7 yo... that said, after about 3 months the teacher 'forgot', or couldn't be bothered to monitor, but dd1 seems to be fine - no questions and she grasped it pretty quickly, she does find the tracy books interesting.

the one programme i loathe with a passion is 'king stupid', which ds1 and dd2 found accidentally one day and now want to watch in the hols. at 8 and 6, i don't really want them running around yelling 'you're 'king stupid' to each other or anyone else...

harumph. shakes torygraph.

I think I would put her in care if she was my child, and no one in their right mind would want to adopt her. Thankfully both my kids hate the show now

i liked it when ds used to watch it. but I think it was therelief of something english for a change.

dds dont like it

good, I agree it is shouty and Not Very Nice

dd1 isnt interested int eh books either

thank the lord

Does anyone else find Bratz truly awful? my dsd (then aged 5) would insist on it and i would refuse..."like whatever!" one of them actually wears a plaster over her nose job omg! and the word bitch was actually heard! but her mother has hollyoaks on while shes in the same room whod want their 6yr old watching that!!! they snog in it and EVERYTHING!!

mine have never seen it

Tracey Beaker is banned in my house too - it is foul.

Both dds like/have liked it. INteresting characters, gripping storylines, never changed their behaviour in the slightest. We've always had a clear understanding of fiction and imagination.

Much worse characters exist in stories but adults accept them more because they are 'unreal' characters.

TRACY BEAKER, SHUT YOUR BIG FAT GOB! is a bit of a catch phrase in teh pointy house.

Tracey Beaker also banned

that Hedz thing is totally unsuitable as well.

I am getting really pissed off with CBBC for the cretinous interludes with the presenters. They are all so awful and silly

Have just been mean and made him switch off.

ohh but i heart justin on cbeebies