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AIBU to feel annoyed about discounted attractions for benefit claimants?

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Sheldonsheher · 10/04/2026 10:01

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15721199/Benefit-claiming-families-UK-attractions-working-Brits.html

I know I’ll get slated as the origin is the daily fail but, but this kind of annoys me too! I mean as a single parent I don’t want to pay £60 to go to the zoo either.

Benefit-claiming families pay just £4 for top UK attractions

More than 80 attractions give discounts to benefit claimants, with MPs reacting furiously with one saying the system created a 'two-tier system that punishes work'.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15721199/Benefit-claiming-families-UK-attractions-working-Brits.html

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Itchthescratch · 10/04/2026 13:00

MyLuckyHelper · 10/04/2026 12:59

so the UC discounts are lucrative now?

Of course it is. Paying a few quid instead of over £100 is a lucrative discount. Do you disagree?

marcyhermit · 10/04/2026 13:01

Itchthescratch · 10/04/2026 12:59

No I really don't need to do anything. Your assertion that the tickets aren't subsidised by those paying full price is blatantly wrong. The attraction would shut down without them and there would be no zoo for those paying £1.

I haven't asserted anything, I've asked are they subsidised, and if so by how much. But no one seems to know.

youalright · 10/04/2026 13:01

Itchthescratch · 10/04/2026 12:57

So what? One form of unfairness doesn't warrant another. If my child was disabled or my partner died would a heavily discounted zook ticket make it 'fair'? What if the widow wasn't entitled to UC and didn't even get the discounted zoo ticket?

It would mean your child wouldn't suddenly be seriously disadvantaged by something awful happening to them. People are on benefits because bad things have happened to them they are usually people who have paid into the system prior to this. Its a safety net for us all don't ever think your life can't suddenly change over night because it can.

marcyhermit · 10/04/2026 13:03

Itchthescratch · 10/04/2026 13:00

Of course it is. Paying a few quid instead of over £100 is a lucrative discount. Do you disagree?

Lucrative means producing a profit - are you saying offering discounts is lucrative for the attraction?

Itchthescratch · 10/04/2026 13:03

MyLuckyHelper · 10/04/2026 13:00

The zoo would shut without full price ticket payers, yes. Offering discounted tickets alongside full price ones, to encourage people who otherwise wouldn't go at all - doesn't cost the zoo money. Unless you can show evidence to the contrary, it's a non argument. The discounted people aren't being given spaces instead of full price ones.

There is an opportunity cost to allowing UC customers in for £1. If this wasn't true then why don't attractions offer all surplus tickets at a smaller but still large discount to other families and customers? If it wasn't costing the zoo money then they wouldn't need a grant and additional subsidy from full price paying customers to subsidise the scheme.

MyLuckyHelper · 10/04/2026 13:04

Itchthescratch · 10/04/2026 13:00

Of course it is. Paying a few quid instead of over £100 is a lucrative discount. Do you disagree?

Lucrative means producing a large amount of money or profit. How is offering £1 tickets achieving that?

UltimateSloth · 10/04/2026 13:05

Itchthescratch · 10/04/2026 13:03

There is an opportunity cost to allowing UC customers in for £1. If this wasn't true then why don't attractions offer all surplus tickets at a smaller but still large discount to other families and customers? If it wasn't costing the zoo money then they wouldn't need a grant and additional subsidy from full price paying customers to subsidise the scheme.

Well at my local zoo there aren't "surplus" tickets. The zoo has a huge capacity. Offering cheap tickets to poor families doesn't crowd out anyone paying full price.

HoppityBun · 10/04/2026 13:05

Sheldonsheher · 10/04/2026 12:18

Is the zoo not a charity just by supporting the animals? And animal conservation? Anyway.

They aren’t going to further their charitable objectives by making a loss, are they? In any case, charities often have a non charitable business arm.

Itchthescratch · 10/04/2026 13:05

marcyhermit · 10/04/2026 13:03

Lucrative means producing a profit - are you saying offering discounts is lucrative for the attraction?

Apologies for the poor wording. I think it's obvious what I meant though and the fact you seem so desperate to pickup on this makes me think you know that it is in fact the opposite of a lucrative discount for the attraction. Weird that...

marcyhermit · 10/04/2026 13:06

Itchthescratch · 10/04/2026 13:03

There is an opportunity cost to allowing UC customers in for £1. If this wasn't true then why don't attractions offer all surplus tickets at a smaller but still large discount to other families and customers? If it wasn't costing the zoo money then they wouldn't need a grant and additional subsidy from full price paying customers to subsidise the scheme.

I've had huge discounts on all kinds of attractions and theatre shows as a home educator. Does that cost full payers more, or is it worth it for the operator to have more people in?

HairsprayBabe · 10/04/2026 13:06

@Itchthescratch but it is fair..

Only 19% of people are claiming UC and not working through "choice". These are typically people between work, or people who have been recently made redundant, these tend to be short term claimants. This group is also less likely to have children and make use of the scheme. A tiny amount of people are in this category through "choice" as the average payment for a single person in this category is around £750 a month, and no-one is living a life of luxury on that, even with free days at the Zoo.

You have a huge contingent of people who are working and need top ups because their wages are not high enough. (Remember UC goes on wages not hours worked) I would argue people who work in low wage jobs, work far harder than I as an average earner ever do, they deserve nice things too. Our society cannot function without them and we also cannot afford to pay them more. Someone who works as a cleaner or a TA is just as valuable as me who works in an office but is paid significantly more.

The rest are too disabled, or caring for a young child or someone who is too disabled to work. They also deserve nice things.

The unpaid carers (a huge proportion of will be on UC) who save the economy £184 billion annually certainly do.

MyLuckyHelper · 10/04/2026 13:07

Itchthescratch · 10/04/2026 13:03

There is an opportunity cost to allowing UC customers in for £1. If this wasn't true then why don't attractions offer all surplus tickets at a smaller but still large discount to other families and customers? If it wasn't costing the zoo money then they wouldn't need a grant and additional subsidy from full price paying customers to subsidise the scheme.

Because they're private businesses and can choose how and when to offer discounts. Are full price tickets subsidising the cost of NHS/Military staff when they use their blue light card, if so - are you upset at that too?

All I really want is some evidence that full price tickets went up on the same day that just one of these companies introduced a discount to UC claimants.

Itchthescratch · 10/04/2026 13:07

UltimateSloth · 10/04/2026 13:05

Well at my local zoo there aren't "surplus" tickets. The zoo has a huge capacity. Offering cheap tickets to poor families doesn't crowd out anyone paying full price.

Surplus tickets are simply potential tickets that are in excess of the tickets sold. So theoretically your zoo has a lot of potential surplus tickets if it's nowhere near hitting capacity

marcyhermit · 10/04/2026 13:08

Itchthescratch · 10/04/2026 13:05

Apologies for the poor wording. I think it's obvious what I meant though and the fact you seem so desperate to pickup on this makes me think you know that it is in fact the opposite of a lucrative discount for the attraction. Weird that...

You're guessing that it costs the attraction money, and you're guessing that it costs other visitors more, but you haven't given any indication of what the costs involved might be.
Without knowing what you think the costs are, it is hard to see why you have come to these conclusions.

Greenwitchart · 10/04/2026 13:08

Pathetic.

Dscounts have always been in places like museums, major galleries and leisure activities/attractions for students, disabled people and those on benefits.

So what? I think it is a good thing that those who have low incomes and their kids can still access culture, knowledge and have fun with their kids.

You should stop reading the Daily Mail and get on with your life.

Itchthescratch · 10/04/2026 13:09

MyLuckyHelper · 10/04/2026 13:07

Because they're private businesses and can choose how and when to offer discounts. Are full price tickets subsidising the cost of NHS/Military staff when they use their blue light card, if so - are you upset at that too?

All I really want is some evidence that full price tickets went up on the same day that just one of these companies introduced a discount to UC claimants.

NHS and military discounts are also a form of virtue signalling. Personally I don't support the blue light discount scheme but the level of discount is far far lower than some of the UC schemes.

MyLuckyHelper · 10/04/2026 13:09

Itchthescratch · 10/04/2026 13:05

Apologies for the poor wording. I think it's obvious what I meant though and the fact you seem so desperate to pickup on this makes me think you know that it is in fact the opposite of a lucrative discount for the attraction. Weird that...

Genuinely have no idea what you meant then. I would take it to mean letting UC claimants in at a discount, encourages spending that otherwise wouldn't have been there. ie the entry fee (even at a much lower rate, that they wouldn't have paid, café or gift shop spending). I think that is the case, but you've told me those things aren't happening because "these people" can't afford to spend while they're there. So was confused as to why you'd now decided they were a lucrative idea.

If you didn't mean to use the word lucrative, what did you mean?

Coffeeandbooks88 · 10/04/2026 13:09

MrsAvocet · 10/04/2026 12:25

I live in a popular holiday area and quite a few attractions have local resident discounts that work like this. The whole point is to get more people in as it's better to have more visitors who are paying a discounted price than fewer paying full price. And once visitors are there they tend to buy stuff even if it's just an over priced coffee so income is boosted that way too. The discounted prices are only ever at off peak times though. If I wanted to go anywhere this week for instance nowhere has any offers for locals as everywhere is heaving with holidaymakers, but some places run locals' weekends in the winter or have midweek discounts outside of school holidays as it keeps some money coming in when visitor numbers are down. Animal attractions in particular do this kind of thing as the animals still need to be fed and cared for year round so they can't save very much money by closing over the Winter like some other places do.
I think the main purpose of most kinds of discount is to get more bums on seats. If it looks altruistic then that's also good PR but I think most businesses will only do it if it makes financial sense to them. An extra 100 people paying £1 is better than those people not attending at all and if they all buy a coffee or an ice cream then even better.

Yes we have a big aquarium that a few times a year offer cheap tickets to residents in the city. It is a nice thing to do.

SimonQuinlanksWeakLemonDrink · 10/04/2026 13:11

People don’t understand how any of this works.

Take the zoo example.

Zoos (zoological societies) are mainly charities, with the aim of conservation and education. Widening participation is usually one of the fundamental tenets of their charity. So encouraging and facilitating visits by people who wouldn’t otherwise be able to visit, so they can benefit from the educational aspect (particularly children, but also marginalised communities).

Being charities, they can often access funding from bodies like the Lottery, for new enclosures, facilities and experiences. Taking this funding, which is necessary to further the aims of the charity, comes with responsibilities. One of which, quite rightly, has a social element to it, again in widening participation and including people who are currently excluded. No wider participation - no funding. No funding - higher prices for everyone to visit the zoo.

The subsidised places take nothing away from visitors paying full price, but does allow the site to access charity funding for which it would not be otherwise eligible. It also widens participation and enriches the experience in particular of marginalised or excluded groups. If you want a discounted ticket but don’t qualify, sign up to Groupon or save up your Clubcard vouchers, and a cheaper experience can be yours too!

In a civilised society, such schemes are seen as a good thing. The issue is that the likes of Jenrick want you to believe that those people are taking something away from you, the hardworking taxpayer, so that you don’t look up and see the people who are really screwing you over - him, his friends and others of his ilk, who take massively from all of us and never contribute their fair share.

monday1983 · 10/04/2026 13:11

UnderHousemaid · 10/04/2026 10:23

You’re absolutely correct, OP. Benefit claimants should be ankle tagged in case they approach a place where they might be intending to have fun.

They already get free money so maybe they can use it to pay for fun stuff if they want it?! Benefits are supposed to help with basic living not fun days out the rest of us working full time can't afford.

Itchthescratch · 10/04/2026 13:12

marcyhermit · 10/04/2026 13:08

You're guessing that it costs the attraction money, and you're guessing that it costs other visitors more, but you haven't given any indication of what the costs involved might be.
Without knowing what you think the costs are, it is hard to see why you have come to these conclusions.

I'm guessing you have never run a business. Let me ask you this. If there is no opportunity cost to the business for running this scheme and no additional cost of any kind then why do you think that businesses of this nature don't charge a lot less for tickets in general? Why do you think they don't look to sell their additional capacity at a much lower price?

If having people in the attraction for a few quid makes no difference then why don't they extend the scheme?

marcyhermit · 10/04/2026 13:12

Itchthescratch · 10/04/2026 13:09

NHS and military discounts are also a form of virtue signalling. Personally I don't support the blue light discount scheme but the level of discount is far far lower than some of the UC schemes.

Don't you think attractions would rather have more tickets sold at discount, than not sell the tickets?

ByNimbleGreenFinch · 10/04/2026 13:13

These types of attractions are a total rip off in my view. I mean, I don’t approve of zoos anyway so we won’t go there but places like Legoland just seem ridiculous to me.

I’m more a picnic in the park and kicking a ball around kind of Mum! 😂

Itchthescratch · 10/04/2026 13:15

MyLuckyHelper · 10/04/2026 13:09

Genuinely have no idea what you meant then. I would take it to mean letting UC claimants in at a discount, encourages spending that otherwise wouldn't have been there. ie the entry fee (even at a much lower rate, that they wouldn't have paid, café or gift shop spending). I think that is the case, but you've told me those things aren't happening because "these people" can't afford to spend while they're there. So was confused as to why you'd now decided they were a lucrative idea.

If you didn't mean to use the word lucrative, what did you mean?

Look you can't have it both ways. You think the UC claimants that need these heavily discounted tickets are able to drop a few hundred quid on lunch in the park and some toys from the gift shop. Right, ok....

Drastic reduction probably sums it up.

UltimateSloth · 10/04/2026 13:15

Itchthescratch · 10/04/2026 13:07

Surplus tickets are simply potential tickets that are in excess of the tickets sold. So theoretically your zoo has a lot of potential surplus tickets if it's nowhere near hitting capacity

But realistically if the aim was to hit full capacity every day and price according to that, it wouldn't work because there probably aren't enough customers within travel distance to do that, other than at peak times and it would be a crowded unpleasant experience for everyone.

It makes more business sense to price as high as the market will bear to attract a reasonable number of customers such that it's still a pleasant experience, then offer cheap tickets to poor families during off peak times (which is what it does).

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