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AIBU WTF To Do Manipulative Mother

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chatgptmeup · 07/04/2026 17:53

I have a narcissistic mum, part of me wonders if she is mentally beginning to mentally decline (in her 70s). Both myself and my sister had eating disorders and other issues by the time we left home. We didn't want for anything growing up, but mentally my mum was a piece of work. On paper it sounds obvious, go no contact. If I do that though, I cut off my dad, who I love dearly, but has no backbone, and somehow tolerates/likes her. My parents are joined at the hip, if I am lucky, I get my dad alone on a call once every 6 months. She is always right there.

In my 20s, I moved far away from home, went to therapy, mentally got stronger, battled my ED, and for the most part am now ok. I did very well for myself at work (very high up in my field), have a great DH, lovely DC, and the best dog I could have hoped for. My parents came to visit us recently, and it wasn't great for anyone. My mum clearly hates that I am successful. I know deep down it comes from her own insecurities, but anytime my dad brought up my career successes, she likened my job to a ponzi scheme/bringing the world down, and asked several times if I was worried that I would be arrested one day (which as truly bonkers). For background, I work in a heavily regulated financial sector and am squeaky clean, definitely do not do anything illegal, and our company would never do anything wrong, I literally help set that tone from the top. She constantly brought up the fact that she was shocked that I answered emails and calls out of hours, that my children went to school and after school care. Constant comments were made of "well do you think it is fair your husband has to bath the children because you are doing x?", "how is he able to cope with the dinners?". She talked about my sibling constantly, apparently the sun shines out of his arse and always has. He is in my opinion a deadbeat dad who disappeared for years from his children, and didn't give his ex-wife a penny as he decided just not to work for years. He relies on my parents financially, therefore he talks to my mum, and she controlls him.

There was a fallout on the last day of her visit when she chose do to other things than come to family dinner and see my children (and hadn't seen them that day in general). After I told them why I was upset, she refused to aplogise, then tried to gaslight my dad into guilt tripping me into moving on. I finally received a half hearted apology a full day later down the lines of "I'm sorry you feel this way". She is well known for not apologising no matter how wrong she is. It is all round just sad. I haven't responded to her message, and now need to think what to do. If I cut her off I lose my dad, my children lose both grandparents, and today I am wracked with guilt at calling her out on her actions, literally sitting shaking with anxiety. It kills me that after 20 years away she still has this effect on me.

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Mintchocs · 08/04/2026 08:42

Hi OP, I have exactly this dynamic with my parents. I was like you until recently, trying to understand or explain the behaviour. Then I realised it isnt complicated - they are just selfish narcissists, definitely very jealous of your success, and not interested in your kids or any conversation that isnt about them and how great they are. It is what it is. If you hold up even a tiny mirror to their behaviour youll get savaged.

My approach was to go v low contact, and to say you know what, I have more self respect than to tolerate this. Its not my problem, I dont need to look for explanations or second guess myself (no more asking why are they like this? Why am i letting it bother me? Am i too sensitive? Etc - stop doing that!).

I'd try to minimise contact OP, seriously, they are just deeply unpleasant people and theyll never change.

Edited to add, I am successful in my career too and they dont like it, I moved abroad and relish the distance, all comms are 100% surface level and our recent once yearly weekly visit almost did me in! So you and I have similarities there. A month visit though, wow, dont ever do that to yourself again! I'm glad your DH is supporting you.

Also just a thought, you might have cptsd from your childhood which is why stress levels are really amped up around your folks (theyll be triggers for it). It can happen quite often with abusive households.

Catcatcatcatcat · 08/04/2026 08:47

Honestly, you may as well cut them both off and go completely NC. He has supported your mothers abuse of you and intends to continue this.

Your life will feel so much lighter without them.

Cancel your planned trip for a start.

LateIn · 08/04/2026 08:54

Your mum is horrible.

Like you your dad is abused by her too. He will also be scared.

Have you ‘Let them’.

I am in a very similar position to you, except I live less than an hour away and my dad has recently died. I thought it was my dad that was emotionally illiterate and that my mum went along with him.
It isn’t, it is her. She really does not like me, is a misogynist and prefers my brother. She hates my success but is also emotionally illiterate.

I limit my contact, I don’t feel guilty, she has made her choices.

(And some MN posters, it can be the woman that is abusive, not the man - stop excusing her behaviour by blaming his).

WotthehellMehitabel · 08/04/2026 08:56

That message from your father made me so angry on your behalf... happily throwing you to your mother like a bone to a wolf, to gnaw on so she leaves him alone... It shows how sick the dynamic is that he even thinks that's acceptable to say...

I agree with PP, for a start do not EVER do a long trip like that again! And definitely don't stay in their house/on her territory.

However much you love your Dad, I'm afraid he really doesn't have your back... 🤗 He will always put her (and himself) before you, and I hope this is something you can work through...

sesquipedalian · 08/04/2026 09:01

“Their visit this time spanned almost a month,”

That’s a long time, OP, for difficult parents to stay! Your DH is absolutely spot on when he says you won’t be staying at your parents’ house - and I hope you’ll be organising trips that will take you away for a few days at a time so you can catch your breath! Your father’s message to you says nothing about how you might feel about the situation with your DM: it’s all about him - more or less, “make it up with her, there’s a good girl because it would be easier for me.” I do understand that family dynamics can be difficult and that you may have good reasons for not wanting to cut yourself off completely from your family, but I would be keeping a distance, and certainly would not be either hosting them or staying in their house. You need to have your boundaries firmly in place so that they get used to the idea that you can’t be pushed around or guilted into doing things you’re not comfortable with - this will become all the more important as they age.

Everybodys · 08/04/2026 10:48

chatgptmeup · 07/04/2026 19:09

Ok so as an update I just got another text from my dad as they board their plane home which verbatim says "it would be good if you contact mum sometime soon and don't let this stagnate. If nothing else it would make my life easier". I guess thank you for the messages above. He has always been "my person" as i'm by far my mum's least favourite child. All my favourite childhood memories are me and him by ourselves doing things. I'm actually really emotional now reading these comments and putting his ask in context. Well... I know how I will never parent my children, that is the blessing coming out of this.

Fuck me, that's awful.

Itiswhysofew · 08/04/2026 11:29

DP has a similar situation with his mother. His father has enabled the mother by not confronting her behaviour throughout his childhood. His father is very kind, but also very weak.

DP went NC a few years back and has accepted that it was the best thing to do. He sees his father several times a year. His mother is nearing the end of life and his father's been in tears, asking DP to pay a final visit to her. He has refused. He feels bad for his father, but doesn't see the point visiting a woman who was abusive his whole life. Why should he?

chatgptmeup · 08/04/2026 18:09

@Mintchocs thanks that really nails it, sorry you're also in this situation, it's just really shitty (sorry everyone who is/has gone through this, honestly).

My dad called me yesterday after the text and I told him to respect my boundaries and I needed space. Since then I've had several messages from both parents telling me what a wonderful time they had, that the flight back was great etc. I haven't responded to any in the group chat, I moved it to archive so I don't see updates now. They've moved onto pretending everything is great and ignoring any issues, which is their standard approach. I'm getting updates from my dad in separate messages about their day. I'm responding to him with vague answers "ok, have a good day" type stuff.

I went NC with my mum a maybe 20 years ago for a year or so. I was in university and she moved to another country with my sibling for a year which I found out through a relative. She didn't want to tell me in case I got upset apparently. She had a horrible codependent relationship with my sister because my mum "needs to be needed" so creates attachments to get what she has to emotionally, and I strongly disapproved of it. I know my mum's dad was a really awful person (very emotionally abusive and manipulative), and it clearly stuck on her in many ways. It's hard to watch, but I think it is a grey zone where I can't completely walk away yet (mainly out of my own guilt), but I can extremely limit contact and make everything on my terms or will go NC.

I spent the whole of yesterday feeling anxious/physically sick with nerves. Weirdly chat GPT did have good advice on this, who knew it was a stand in therapist about the not replying now, being in fight or flight and just taking a break. Today feels better, but still on my mind constantly. Thanks everyone!

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