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Is this partly why countries need immigration ?

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ApriloNeil2026 · 03/04/2026 11:16

Countries such as Japan and South Korea illustrate the extreme case: extremely low fertility combined with minimal immigration leads to rapid population aging and long-term economic stagnation.

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Besafeeatcake · 04/04/2026 13:34

Shedmistress · 04/04/2026 13:26

Yes, people live longer in Japan. How fucking amazing is that?

I do not see how this is a failure.

I think you are missing the point. It isn’t about living longer it’s about Japanese people having less children and not being able to sustain what the have based on the current population decline.

It isn’t a failure but will have serious implications on society in future.

smallglassbottle · 04/04/2026 13:46

Young people are struggling to afford to rent or buy a house. How are they meant to afford nursery fees so they can have a family? As far as I can tell, the government are quite happy for them to remain unemployed and living with parents. I suppose people who were born here will die out eventually leaving no children. And that will be the end of that. Just don't expect the litter to be picked up.

Dappy777 · 04/04/2026 14:04

Farawaytreemagic · 03/04/2026 12:12

As long as the immigrants are going to contribute to society and not drain it then yes

Exactly. It doesn’t justify letting in hundreds of thousands of young men, many of them violent criminals. Nor does it justify exploiting the student visa system.

When immigration occurs on a small scale, and you are highly selective, it really can benefit a country. After all, T. S. Eliot, Henry James, Joseph Conrad, Freddie Mercury, Clive James and Sigmund Freud were all immigrants. But an illiterate, unskilled drug dealer does NOT enrich your country, and anyone who says he does is a brainwashed lunatic.

Also, when those who come have an affection for your culture (loving Jane Austen and Monty Python, etc), you can maintain a sense of identity. However, when the people you let in either know nothing about your country or, frankly, hate it, then you’ve got a problem. Immigration has destroyed my identity. I no longer live in a country with a shared history and shared culture.

Djdja · 04/04/2026 14:24

Dappy777 · 04/04/2026 14:04

Exactly. It doesn’t justify letting in hundreds of thousands of young men, many of them violent criminals. Nor does it justify exploiting the student visa system.

When immigration occurs on a small scale, and you are highly selective, it really can benefit a country. After all, T. S. Eliot, Henry James, Joseph Conrad, Freddie Mercury, Clive James and Sigmund Freud were all immigrants. But an illiterate, unskilled drug dealer does NOT enrich your country, and anyone who says he does is a brainwashed lunatic.

Also, when those who come have an affection for your culture (loving Jane Austen and Monty Python, etc), you can maintain a sense of identity. However, when the people you let in either know nothing about your country or, frankly, hate it, then you’ve got a problem. Immigration has destroyed my identity. I no longer live in a country with a shared history and shared culture.

And it doesn't justify replacement of the current population and them becoming a minority in their own country

TheFatRat · 04/04/2026 17:55

And it doesn't justify replacement of the current population and them becoming a minority in their own country

Plus when the indigenous try to talk about the issues, they are told to pipe down or called 'far right'.

Blair's dream of most kids going to university blew up in our face. He dreamed they could sit in a classroom and go to lectures to be indoctrinated by lefty professors (another issue facing us now) while we import cheap EU labour, tradesmen and low paid folk to fill our working class jobs. Employers could screw them down to the lowest wages and being from poor East European countries, they didn't complain. School leavers were told they were too good to do those roles. Why do you need a trade? Go and sit in a classroom.

Our youngsters left university with massive debt for mickey mouse degrees, the majority of which never paid it back ie the tax payer (you and I) paid it for them. They didnt start their careers until age 25 and then moan that mum or gran had a deposit at age 27 to put towards a house, but mum or gran had been in work since 16.

All the while we were forced to accept unfettered EU immigration which caused issues. A block was put on that. Then we had the Boris wave.

Your average Brit is fed up. Selective immigration is fine. Unfettered immigration will ruin the UK.

Pineneedlesincarpet · 04/04/2026 17:56

SerendipityJane · 04/04/2026 10:59

Their crimes are mere pinpricks compared to the wholesale amputations being committed by the megacorps who pay little to no tax.

I mean you'd need a fuck of a lot of builders dodging a lot of tax to match what Amazon should be paying. Let alone Google, Apple, Meta, Microsoft. And they are all pricing up a job the other side of town but will call in tomorrow.

Yes its the "megacorps" that support the mass immigration we see. Cheap labour. Bigger profits.

Pineneedlesincarpet · 04/04/2026 17:58

KatiePricesKnickers · 04/04/2026 12:34

They are citizens, and arseholes as well.
No need to import any more though, is there?

Spot on. I think this sums up much of the immigration debate really.

EmeraldRoulette · 04/04/2026 17:58

Shedmistress · 03/04/2026 21:47

Japan, that failure what with being the 4th highest GDP in the world?

Where do you people get this utter garbage from?

I'm glad you said that because that was confusing me as well! 😂

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