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To have little sympathy with celebrities with their addictions?

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Talldaisy13 · 30/03/2026 15:50

This isn’t about anyone in particular. Just that there are so many celebrities with drug and alcohol problems and they end up ruining not only their own lives but the lives of others.

I know that money and status doesn’t mean you are exempt from mental health problems. But there’s so much navel gazing and some seem to have no self awareness.

I’ve had close family members with addictions and although I understand that it’s supposed to be an illness, I’ve found that they blame everyone else for their problems and destroy everyone around them.

I probably feel the same about anyone but with celebrities it seems even worse when they have the means to get help and have lives others can only dream of.

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StrongandNorthern · 30/03/2026 21:32

I'm sorry.
Not meant to be nasty AT ALL.
I'm sad you have so much experience of the issues. I'm not sure you have a lot of understanding though - they are different things.
I had an alcoholic parent too - so not unsympathetic.

CitizenZ · 30/03/2026 21:34

Talldaisy13 · 30/03/2026 21:13

What I will say is that people are saying I’m clueless/have no understanding.

My dad was an alcoholic. It ruined our family and he did unspeakable things when under the influence. He also drunk and drove including with us in the car as children.

Because of the lifestyle we had that meant there were a lot of other addicts around, including hard drugs.

Drugs were readily available anywhere you went. A lot of my childhood friends got hooked on heroin.

The pain and trauma that addiction causes to loved ones is unimaginable.

My quote was 'I think you have an extreme lack of understanding and empathy for struggles you have never had to endure'

My Dad was also an Alcoholic. It was awful. I have years of stories of how hellish it was. I couldn't even answer the landline at one point because I worried it was news about him. I had to clear his house after he died. It's not easy picking up sheets off the sofa where he had laid for years, the bodily secretions of his final days. Scattered all around him all over the floor and coffee table, literally everywhere where family photo's of before he became what he did. His struggles were real. He was an intelligent loving man, but his addiction took over his life. Rather than hate him, I had empathy for him, regardless of how it made me feel, I will never blame him for what I went through, because what he went through was a million times worse.

Talldaisy13 · 30/03/2026 21:39

Blimms · 30/03/2026 21:25

Personal experience doesn’t mean you know more than most.

You don’t know more than the people who work with addicts, such as medics, support workers and counsellors, or researchers who study addiction. You are blinded by your own anger at the people who have been around you.

No, I’m not a professional.

But please don’t dismiss personal/lived experience.

It’s easy to remain neutral if you’ve mainly only dealt with addicts in a professional capacity.

As a person growing up with it you have a totally different experience, I grew up around a lot of addicts not just one or two.

I also believe that a lot of addict become such master manipulators that they can pull the wool over even the professionals eyes to gain sympathy and very often completely re-write history. It’s always someone else’s fault, it’s always because they’ve had trauma, the stories become ever more embellished that they begin to believe it themselves.

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Blimms · 30/03/2026 21:42

Talldaisy13 · 30/03/2026 21:39

No, I’m not a professional.

But please don’t dismiss personal/lived experience.

It’s easy to remain neutral if you’ve mainly only dealt with addicts in a professional capacity.

As a person growing up with it you have a totally different experience, I grew up around a lot of addicts not just one or two.

I also believe that a lot of addict become such master manipulators that they can pull the wool over even the professionals eyes to gain sympathy and very often completely re-write history. It’s always someone else’s fault, it’s always because they’ve had trauma, the stories become ever more embellished that they begin to believe it themselves.

I think you might have missed my post about me growing up with an alcoholic mother. So I do have personal experience as well as professional.

You have asked me not to dismiss your personal/lived experience. But actually, you are dismissing mine.

Talldaisy13 · 30/03/2026 21:42

StrongandNorthern · 30/03/2026 21:32

I'm sorry.
Not meant to be nasty AT ALL.
I'm sad you have so much experience of the issues. I'm not sure you have a lot of understanding though - they are different things.
I had an alcoholic parent too - so not unsympathetic.

Thank you, I’m sorry that you also had to grown ip
with that.

It has given me a very hardened view and black and white thinking.

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Talldaisy13 · 30/03/2026 21:46

Blimms · 30/03/2026 21:42

I think you might have missed my post about me growing up with an alcoholic mother. So I do have personal experience as well as professional.

You have asked me not to dismiss your personal/lived experience. But actually, you are dismissing mine.

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Oh ok I’m sorry I must have missed you saying that.

Well you’ve done very well to come out of that and still remain understanding and sympathetic.

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Talldaisy13 · 30/03/2026 21:49

CitizenZ · 30/03/2026 21:34

My quote was 'I think you have an extreme lack of understanding and empathy for struggles you have never had to endure'

My Dad was also an Alcoholic. It was awful. I have years of stories of how hellish it was. I couldn't even answer the landline at one point because I worried it was news about him. I had to clear his house after he died. It's not easy picking up sheets off the sofa where he had laid for years, the bodily secretions of his final days. Scattered all around him all over the floor and coffee table, literally everywhere where family photo's of before he became what he did. His struggles were real. He was an intelligent loving man, but his addiction took over his life. Rather than hate him, I had empathy for him, regardless of how it made me feel, I will never blame him for what I went through, because what he went through was a million times worse.

It’s awful, an absolute horror show having someone you love and who is supposed to love you do unspeakable things.

Again, you must have a very big heart to have come through it and feel the way you do.

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DreamyJade · 31/03/2026 11:01

Talldaisy13 · 30/03/2026 21:49

It’s awful, an absolute horror show having someone you love and who is supposed to love you do unspeakable things.

Again, you must have a very big heart to have come through it and feel the way you do.

You can hate the behaviours without hating the person. They’re an addict, they can’t help it. Keeping hold of the anger will hurt you far more than it will hurt them.

My DM, DB and now my DD are all alcoholics. I know the pain, believe me I know!

ConstanzeMozart · 31/03/2026 11:27

Talldaisy13 · 30/03/2026 20:16

The reason I mention celebrities specifically is because yes, many of them are extremely wealthy.

They have the means to choose the lifestyle they want, they don’t face the same problems that everyday folk face and yet they often do terrible things and still get an outpouring of sympathy.

And yes I struggle to feel sorry for any addict. It’s a choice.

It might not be a choice once you’re well and truly hooked but it’s a choice to take drugs and drink to excess in the first place.

In my experience it’s usually a certain type of person that becomes an addict .

In my experience it’s usually a certain type of person that becomes an addict.
What 'type'? A type that Sarah from a council estate, Dave from the nice area and every celebrity with an addiction all belong to?

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