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AIBU to be annoyed at comments about Jennie Murray’s legacy?

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Bertiebiscuit · 22/03/2026 08:58

I'm furious with Harriet Harmon, how dare she end up her tepid praise of Jennie Murray (may she R I P) on the Today programme by saying that Jennie's views in 'trans'... "didn't take away from the rest of her career". How utterly mealy mouthed, Jennie was cancelled and lost her job for telling the truth that men calling themselves "trans women" are not real women and never can be. For sane women this was Jennie's finest hour, she refused to bow down to the men in frocks, and her being sacked from Women's hour was a disaster, bad for Jennie, one of the beebs best ever communicators, and bad for Women's hour which most proper feminists no longer bother with. Trust the misogynist BBC and Labour Party to insult women all over again. I'm surprised that any women pay the licence fee to be treated this way, or ever vote Labour again, the size of their betrayal is breathtaking

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Valeriekat · 23/03/2026 03:07

Farewelltothatid · 22/03/2026 09:18

At the risk of being the target of vitriol I wasn't a wholehearted fan of Jenni Murray - and I used to listen to Woman's Hour regularly .

But when she died I had the option of keeping my views to myself and allowing those who were grieving for her and who admired her to voice their praise and appreciation.

I'm not a Labour Party supporter and Harriet Harmon has sometimes not totally reflected my view points but she has generally been a great role model for women and I respect her. It was very fitting that she was asked to pay tribute to Jenni Murray but to expect her to be unfaithful to her own beliefs and views while paying tribute is ridiculous. So by referencing but not dwelling on this difference in views she did her best to not detract from Jenni Murray whilst not compromising herself.

I don't know what you expected her to do tbh.

In what way has she been a great role model for women? She supports men's fetishes at the expense of the safety of women and children. Her breastfeeding in the house of Common's was highly performative and she did nothing to ensure other women had access to affordable childcare so I am struggling to see how she helped women.

Valeriekat · 23/03/2026 03:09

Farewelltothatid · 22/03/2026 09:46

I don't " support " Harriet Harmon. I didn't "support" Jenni Murray.

In general i believe it's impossible to find a role model that encapsulates all the values and view points that reflect your own opInion.
Therefore it's best to deal with things on an issue by issue basis and not put people on pedestals. Endorse their views you do agree with and soundly condemn those you feel are wrong.

Edited

They aren't a role model in that case!

ChestnutSquash · 23/03/2026 04:07

RufustheFactuaIReindeer · 22/03/2026 10:00

She could have said ' while we disagreed on this...' rather than couching it as an invalid opinion ( an opinion protected by law).

this, it should have been phrased better.

I agree with other posters as well, how would HH like it if the same sort of thing is said in her eulogy ‘her views on PIE didn't take away from the rest of her career’

Absolutely this. HH's support for PIE was shameful.

DeftGoldHedgehog · 23/03/2026 05:13

Farewelltothatid · 22/03/2026 09:46

I don't " support " Harriet Harmon. I didn't "support" Jenni Murray.

In general i believe it's impossible to find a role model that encapsulates all the values and view points that reflect your own opInion.
Therefore it's best to deal with things on an issue by issue basis and not put people on pedestals. Endorse their views you do agree with and soundly condemn those you feel are wrong.

Edited

This. Expecting people to be ideologically pure is very odd.

Sausagenbacon · 23/03/2026 07:07

Her breastfeeding in the house of Common's was highly performative and
Aren't you thinking of another labour MP?
Stalle Creasey or Yvette Cooper?

FatRosie · 24/03/2026 09:45

Sausagenbacon · 23/03/2026 07:07

Her breastfeeding in the house of Common's was highly performative and
Aren't you thinking of another labour MP?
Stalle Creasey or Yvette Cooper?

Stella Creasey.

FatRosie · 24/03/2026 09:49

Bertiebiscuit · 22/03/2026 20:03

Dear goddess the spelling police are out in force. Because correct spelling is always the main thing.

You managed to misspell Jenni Murray's name in the thread title, and both Harriet Harman and Jenni Murray's names in the first sentence of the OP.
We knew who you meant but it detracts from the message.

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