The new EU passport control system for non-EU is totally idiotic and crap and will permanently make holidaying in Europe worse

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Sure, still probably better than the US (and no need to say anything about the UAE etc for now) but still shit.

1. Why are there stupid kiosks dotted randomly about, just put them in the line everyone waits in so the queue can be orderly and everyone literally knows where they stand.

2.Clearly mark the line so people don't wait in the wrong one for an hour before being told they have to go to the back of another.

3.The fingerprints machine cannot properly take fingerprints (anyone who has worked in a fingerprinty job knows this, it's all for show) so maybe just park that or if not then at least get some alcohol wipes for between users.

None of this will happen ofc it's random shitty kiosks til we die. Or rejoin the EU. So the first one.

It's all adding so much stress to journeys to and from the EU now. Well for those with non EU passports anyway. I'd hate it, says she clutching her EU passport with super glue!

Even so, the queues can be dreadful for EU passport holders also. I often wonder if it's a subtle go slow on behalf of border control agents.... I mean, take Malaga for example, they have refurbished the airport etc. but the airport operator AENA don't seem to have any say in making the immigration system any more efficient. I can't understand it. But hey manana, manana I suppose. And maybe the immigration is a Government operation, outside the control of the airport operator.

My DH wants to go to Barcelona region later in the year (wars and fuel permitting). We've decided if we do go that we'll use REUS instead of El Prat and stay in Tarragona, travelling into BC for a couple of day trips. REUS being a smaller airport. It's adding more decisions to what should be a straightforward journey to Barcelona and back. IMO anyway! And that's WITH EU passports!

Does anyone know how Seville is right now ?

Is that through the airport at Jerez which most UK carriers seems to use, or the actual airport at Seville.? Interested in the answer either way.😀

I meant Seville itself but likewise interested in either

I took a short break to Rome in January and was surprised at how quick we got through passport control. Both DH and I are UK passport holders and passport control were literally waiting for us. We were through quicker than the EU passport queue.

EU incompetence & bureacracy every single f-ing time. And no, nothing to do with security as we can tell by the 100s of 1000s of illegals Europe is pushing in our direction.

Shall we just rejoin then? Seems as good a reason as blue passports.

What utter tripe.

Dude, Boris Johnson admitted to letting folk in to reduce inflation caused by Brexit x covid

Definitely trying to punish us. It’s ludicrous because technically once you have done it you are not supposed to have to do it again. However each time I have traveled since it came in I have had to go through the checks again. I know someone who works for a coach company and he travels weekly and every single time he has to go through this daft rigmarole.

The EU has not published clear guidelines and I think Spain will require the kiosks every time forever as a result (possibly a purposeful interpretation to reduce tourism but that would seem a bit daft)

weren't we promised frictionless movement and trade?

didn't some people say that exactly this would happen?

much better off blaming everyone else than the people who promised unicorns eh, they wouldn't have lied for their own gain would they?

Bloody remainers fault clearly

I mean no. Some idiots demanded a thing and didn't define it and Theresa may tried to make it less insane than it could be but kept being voted down

Glad I'm nearer death than birth but sad for all the kids

Got back from Malaga last week. Arriving was a complete nightmare. Long queue of people trying to complete the information on the screens, with just 1 person to help. Took ages to get through to the final page that says go to the e-gates. Except you don't. You then had the long regular security queues where they stamp your passport. I don't want to think about what it'll be like in summer.

On the way back I was stressing as I was told to allow loads of time to get through the new checks but when I got to control there were no queues, the officer took my passport, scanned it on the machine for me, I went to the desk for passport stamping (still no queue) and I was through.

Given that the UK was never a member of the Schengen agreement, this would have happened if we were part of the EU

If anything it reinforces why it was a positive to leave...the EU can't organise a piss up in a brewery. This system has been delayed time and time again. We visited Tenerife in January, we registered and used the system to enter...it was broken when we left a week later.

So the EU have introduced a system that fails repeatedly, doesn't seem to have clear guidelines and fails to do what it was intended to do, regulate and monitor who comes and goes.

So British people, who take more holidays abroad than most countries (70 million I believe) will visit Turkey, north Africa, Dubai etc (when Trump stops fing around) rather than the EU to the detriment to those countries

Funny that Irish citizens are exempt owing to being in the EU then.

Compare the EU system to our system with ours that allows UK, Ireland, EU countries, Norway, Iceland, Liechtenstein, Switzerland, Australia, Canada, Japan, New Zealand, Singapore, South Korea, United States passports to go through the e-gates.

As the spouse of an EU citizen, travelling together, you should be able to go through with them.

You can travel on either of your passports (making sure the surname matches that on the ticket). Boarding passport check is just to show that your passport matches the name on the ticket; it’s not the same as border control.

You take both passports with you. Leaving the EU, you show your EU passport as you pass immigration. When you arrive to the UK, you show your British passport at immigration.

I’m a dual, and travel often on the Eurostar, which annoyingly isn’t set up on their passport registration for dual citizens. Leaving France, I show my EU passport first, and then show the UK one. Leaving St Pancras, its vice versa.

I went to Italy in February and it was fine. Maybe people who voted for Brexit (based on your last sentence) are just a bit hard of thinking….

We flew back from Lanzarote recently and there was a queue system for the kiosks it was fast, staffed appropriately and very easy

I voted to remain in the EU please try a bit of humility re your capacity to assume accurately??

We haven't been abroad since early 2020 and reading these comments is making me flustered. I've never found airports easy to navigate then came digital tickets, QR codes - now kiosks & different queues.

And yet we queued for ages. The flight to the Netherlands was quicker than passport control!

( and I dread to think with Amsterdam (rather than Dubai) being a route for long haul flights.

We flew to Chambery at Feb half term so as busy as that airport ever gets. The longest queue I stood in was for the loo. Nothing seemed very different to when I last flew 5 or 6 years ago - we just went up to a man in a booth who checked our passports. Everyone was in one queue for these booths. Can airports choose to implement these systems or not? We were expecting something involving fingerprints.