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AIBU to complain after my bin wasn’t collected and I was shouted at?

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HalfColdCoffee · 20/03/2026 01:32

I suspect this is one of those situations that sounds ridiculous on paper but will hopefully make sense to some of you, and ended up being longer than I intended it to he!

I’ve lived in my house over 6 years (first occupant, new build, corner plot, drive way is the turning circle of the cul-de-sac - this is relevant!). During that entire time I’ve left my bin in exactly the same place in my front garden. Because I’m on a turning circle my whole front garden is basically kerbside anyway and rubbish and recycling have been collected from there every week without issue. Refuse, recycling, garden waste, all fine.

Three weeks ago it suddenly wasn’t collected. No note. No communication. Nothing.

I assumed it was just missed. I didn’t report it and just let it go, assuming human error, it happens.

Second week (last week) it happened again. That’s when I reported it and it was eventually collected later that day, so I thought it was sorted. Spoke to a lovely lady, she was as confused as me,

This week the same thing happened again.

I work from home, and the weather has been lovely today so working away with all the windows open, I heard the truck outside and popped my head out of the window just to check my bin had been taken; I was very surprised to see the bin truck using my turning circle driveway to turn and leave my street. My bag was still there, I shouted to the bin man outside my house that he had missed mine ( all other bags in street had been taken) and he shrugged his shoulders at me and carried on moving towards the bin truck. I went outside and asked him why my bin hadn’t been taken. The operative immediately went into raised voice mode telling me it needed to be “at the front of the house” and that “everyone else manages it, and started being very aggressive. He said it needs to be kerbside (which it is as I mentioned, the kerb actually goes down halfway the side of my house due to bloody turning circle!)

Now here’s the thing.

I am a woman in my 40s who raised my two girls on my own, built a career, survived domestic abuse, and have spent most of my adult life just getting on with things because there wasn’t another option.

I am peri-menopausal, permanently tired, still functioning, and I simply do not have the energy anymore for unnecessary power struggles from men who decide today is the day they’re going to try and assert authority over me for absolutely no reason.

Normally I hate confrontation. I avoid complaining unless I absolutely have to.

But something in me just went: absolutely not.

I explained it had been in the same place for six years and nobody had ever told me otherwise and he was perfectly capable of knocking if something had changed. He refused to give his name and just kept repeating that everyone else manages it.

At that point I was so frustrated I picked up the bags myself and put them straight into the back of the truck because frankly it would have taken him less effort to just take it than argue about it.

For the avoidance of doubt, if someone had just explained this normally at any point in the last three weeks, I would simply have moved the spot I place the bin. I’m not difficult and I don’t enjoy making complaints. What I objected to was the tone and the fact this had suddenly become an issue after six years with no communication.

For context I have CPTSD from domestic abuse. I manage my life well, I work, I cope, but aggressive male tone is not something I just absorb quietly anymore. That part of my life is finished.

So yes, I complained. Properly. Reference numbers, email, the works.

One of the refuse managers who rang me today was actually the same lady I had spoken to the previous week when it had been missed twice in a row, and she was just as confused as I was about why this had suddenly become an issue after six years. She was completely apologetic and very reasonable.

She also reassured me that I had done absolutely nothing wrong and that this had effectively already been assessed when they came to collect the previously missed bin. That was quite validating to hear because by that point I was starting to wonder if I’d somehow misunderstood something obvious.

Turns out die to my CPTSD, I qualify for assisted collection (which I genuinely didn’t even know existed). So now they will collect directly from my gate.

Which means the same man now has to walk further to collect my bin than he ever would have if he’d just quietly taken it from where it was.

And yes, before anyone says it, of course I could just start leaving it where he wanted now I know. The point is I should have been told that without being spoken to like I’d done something wrong. Basic communication would have avoided the whole thing.

I won’t lie. There is something quietly satisfying about that.

But the strange thing is, it wasn’t really about the bin.

It was the principle of it. I have spent most of my life just getting on with things, tolerating more than I should have had to, managing situations because I had kids to raise and a life to hold together. That part of me that just absorbs things quietly is still there, but it doesn’t run the show anymore.

These days if someone decides to start an unnecessary power struggle with me, especially over something this petty, they may find they’ve picked the wrong woman on the wrong day.

And the irony is, if he’d just spoken to me normally, I’d have just moved the spot I leave the bin and that would have been the end of it.

Instead he’s now created more work for himself every week.

All over a bin.

AIBI to feel a bit smug regardless?! Although I am full of anxiety at the thought of him being aggressive towards me next week as the manger said she was going to be formally disciplining him.

OP posts:
HalfColdCoffee · 20/03/2026 15:08

OhBumBags · 20/03/2026 15:02

I think you've got a husband because you mentioned you have a husband on a thread you and I were on a few days back?

The one about the alcohol-free wedding?

Either way, I'll bow out then.

Good catch and well spotted, I should have said partner on the other thread. The woman arguing with me on there seemed like the type to pick up on me saying ‘me and my plus one’ We are long distance and I am toying with the idea of accepting his proposal, I suppose I was trying out the title. And the ins and outs of my complicated relationship weren’t relevant on that thread or this one either really.

Although not really relevant to my bin man being a misogynistic prick. I just wanted to share a little win for all of us who have been trampled on by men and by life, I haven’t had many and I enjoyed feeling like I had made a stand.

OP posts:
ringringaro · 20/03/2026 15:09

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This has been deleted by MNHQ for breaking our Talk Guidelines.

OhBumBags · 20/03/2026 15:12

HalfColdCoffee · 20/03/2026 15:08

Good catch and well spotted, I should have said partner on the other thread. The woman arguing with me on there seemed like the type to pick up on me saying ‘me and my plus one’ We are long distance and I am toying with the idea of accepting his proposal, I suppose I was trying out the title. And the ins and outs of my complicated relationship weren’t relevant on that thread or this one either really.

Although not really relevant to my bin man being a misogynistic prick. I just wanted to share a little win for all of us who have been trampled on by men and by life, I haven’t had many and I enjoyed feeling like I had made a stand.

Edited

Although not really relevant to my bin man being a misogynistic prick.

< Sigh > it was relevant to the fact that IF you lived with an able-bodied person they wouldn't offer assisted collection.

I was simply checking that if you live with the man you called your DH, did they know about it or not.

But that's cleared up now thank fuck

Thereissnowinmywellies · 20/03/2026 15:12

HalfColdCoffee · 20/03/2026 12:10

@TheShed7 and @Carmello 👏

Well spotted. The extra medication I had to take to calm myself down yesterday is not brain fog friendly, I had to take the afternoon off work to do some grounding exercises which weren’t enough, as due to CPTSD, my nervous system was activated and you are very correct, I used chat gpt to help me organise my thoughts enough to get them down on paper.

Why are you pointing it out? Does it make my (actually quite traumatic experience) any less appalling?

OP you totally rock !🤘
Just ignore the knobs and their 'ChatGPT' bollocks. Some people really need to get a life, These types whimper on here about minor things and act superior when someone mispells something, I think they just love to have a poke someone.
We should all be a bit more like you OP.

Yardbrushes · 20/03/2026 15:14

OP, well done.
What sn arsehole.
Have you a video bell?
If not get one, and make sure it covers this area.
Take care.

Theamaryllis · 20/03/2026 15:15

Myfridgeiscool · 20/03/2026 07:30

Well done OP.
Getting to the stage where you refuse to put up with this sort of shit is really empowering.
Call it out every time. The bin man was ridiculous.

This. I remember a man stopping whilst I was parallel parking and knocked aggressively on my window I didn’t wind the window down (my kids were in the car) and he banged again hard. I wound it down slightly he started directing me how to parallel parking and I can remember a rage in me - how dare men think we need their help - I handed asked and I shouted ‘stop’ followed by ‘did I stop you and ask for help?’ No he said but it’s a big car and I shouted so you stopped me because I’m a woman and therefore can’t manoverve the car but I bet you wouldn’t have stopped a man - no he said. I parked my car and I had two kids but I didn’t do anything else. It’s the way men talk to women. I’ve seen them and heard them myself ‘silly cunt’ ‘silly bitch’ and so on we are treated differently,

catipuss · 20/03/2026 15:17

Probably a new crew that were going by the letter of the rules, annoying though.

PixelDreamer · 20/03/2026 15:26

I'm amazed they offer assisted collection for anything other than physical infirmity.

HalfColdCoffee · 20/03/2026 15:26

OhBumBags · 20/03/2026 15:12

Although not really relevant to my bin man being a misogynistic prick.

< Sigh > it was relevant to the fact that IF you lived with an able-bodied person they wouldn't offer assisted collection.

I was simply checking that if you live with the man you called your DH, did they know about it or not.

But that's cleared up now thank fuck

Thank fuck indeed 😂 This is the behaviour I will be calling out from now on.

You tried to tell me I will have an issue with assisted delivery, for absolutely no reason and went on a detective hunt to try and discredit me because I mentioned DH instead of accurately saying ‘Long distance, complicated on-off relationship that wants more commitment than I think I can give at the present time’

Are you male? 😂

OP posts:
OhBumBags · 20/03/2026 15:32

I think you're getting a little bit silly now OP and claiming things that are quite simply untrue.

This was my previous (and polite) post - here for all to see.

OP, you don't have to answer if you feel these questions are too personal.

Does your DH live with you and is he able bodied?

Because if yes, I'd be very surprised if you were eligible for assisted bin collections.

But obviously if the answer's no, you would be.

I genuinely don't know how you could take offence to this, or why you're now milking it for all it's worth.

Just silly.

HalfColdCoffee · 20/03/2026 15:36

OhBumBags · 20/03/2026 15:32

I think you're getting a little bit silly now OP and claiming things that are quite simply untrue.

This was my previous (and polite) post - here for all to see.

OP, you don't have to answer if you feel these questions are too personal.

Does your DH live with you and is he able bodied?

Because if yes, I'd be very surprised if you were eligible for assisted bin collections.

But obviously if the answer's no, you would be.

I genuinely don't know how you could take offence to this, or why you're now milking it for all it's worth.

Just silly.

You came to my thread to ask a question that didn’t need to be asked, as all relevant info in OP.

I have corrected you and answered your questions, and you have come back to say I’m milking it and telling me I’m silly? I don’t understand why it’s ok for you to ask and not for me to answer?

OP posts:
Mykneesareshot · 20/03/2026 15:40

This thread has made me so happy. What an idiot who got his comeuppance and now his card his marked with management too. I'd stick a thank you card to the bag next week and inside write 'If it wasn't for you I'd not have found out about assisted collection, many thanks'. Rub his nose right in it.

Wishineversmoked · 20/03/2026 15:41

Brilliant well done you

HalfColdCoffee · 20/03/2026 16:36

Theamaryllis · 20/03/2026 15:15

This. I remember a man stopping whilst I was parallel parking and knocked aggressively on my window I didn’t wind the window down (my kids were in the car) and he banged again hard. I wound it down slightly he started directing me how to parallel parking and I can remember a rage in me - how dare men think we need their help - I handed asked and I shouted ‘stop’ followed by ‘did I stop you and ask for help?’ No he said but it’s a big car and I shouted so you stopped me because I’m a woman and therefore can’t manoverve the car but I bet you wouldn’t have stopped a man - no he said. I parked my car and I had two kids but I didn’t do anything else. It’s the way men talk to women. I’ve seen them and heard them myself ‘silly cunt’ ‘silly bitch’ and so on we are treated differently,

Infuriating isn’t it? What an arse than man is! Good for you for standing your ground!

OP posts:
Whosthetabbynow · 20/03/2026 16:42

I’ve asked a man to park my car. There I’ve said it.

Abitofalark · 20/03/2026 16:43

If I've understood correctly, the disagreement appears to have been about bin man wanting bin placed at the front of house instead of the side and now the bin lorry has to go to the back to collect it.

HalfColdCoffee · 20/03/2026 17:00

Abitofalark · 20/03/2026 16:43

If I've understood correctly, the disagreement appears to have been about bin man wanting bin placed at the front of house instead of the side and now the bin lorry has to go to the back to collect it.

Yes! (Well kind of, but the ‘side’ is still in the kerb, and the lorry backs up next to placement of my bins as it makes its turn to leave the cul-de-sac.)

It’s utterly RIDICULOUS isn’t it?

Had he just asked me, instead of deliberately missing my bins for 3 weeks in a row and shouting in my face when I asked him why he wasn’t taking them, I would have changed the placement of my bins (its all there in OP).

But no, the positioning of the bin lorry doesn’t have to change - there’s no space on my small cul-de-sac for it to change position.

Just means a rude and nasty man has been put in his place and has now as a consequence had his bin round made slightly more difficult than it could have been had he acted like a decent human being.

Petty, but completely satisfying ☺️ and yes, I am smug and enjoying it to those that have asked.

OP posts:
NobodysChildNow · 20/03/2026 17:15

I used to work for a waste and recycling company. The refuse collectors - mostly men - who work there are typically poorly educated. Few people want to be a refuse worker. They get up extraordinarily early in all weathers.

Their routes are often fairly badly planned so the only way they can collect all the bins is by jogging between the bins, and lobbing them back on the kerb. It is a highly time pressured job.

They are not well paid. There is no time to go to the toilet. If they need a wee, pee in a bottle. One of our crew shat in a bag squatting on the street corner; a resident saw him and complained. But there isn’t time or space to answer a call of nature in the cab of the truck, and he couldn’t hold it.

Some of them - particularly the foreign workers - will “hot bed” to save money (they share a bed in a shared house - they sleep in the bed in the afternoon/early evening, whilst their bed-mate who does a day shift sleeps in the bed at night.

Quite a lot of them have to have second jobs to make ends meet.

So sure, feel smug. The guy was unpleasant to you, you got revenge and right is on your side.

But his job isn’t great already, and you just made his day a little bit worse. I couldn’t celebrate that to be honest.

IsItSnowing · 20/03/2026 17:38

Good for you. He sounds like a nasty little jobsworth. I'm glad you found a decent person at the council to speak to and have it sorted now.

I'm also rather pleased on your behalf that he will now have to collect from your door instead.

TowerRaven · 20/03/2026 17:48

NobodysChildNow · 20/03/2026 17:15

I used to work for a waste and recycling company. The refuse collectors - mostly men - who work there are typically poorly educated. Few people want to be a refuse worker. They get up extraordinarily early in all weathers.

Their routes are often fairly badly planned so the only way they can collect all the bins is by jogging between the bins, and lobbing them back on the kerb. It is a highly time pressured job.

They are not well paid. There is no time to go to the toilet. If they need a wee, pee in a bottle. One of our crew shat in a bag squatting on the street corner; a resident saw him and complained. But there isn’t time or space to answer a call of nature in the cab of the truck, and he couldn’t hold it.

Some of them - particularly the foreign workers - will “hot bed” to save money (they share a bed in a shared house - they sleep in the bed in the afternoon/early evening, whilst their bed-mate who does a day shift sleeps in the bed at night.

Quite a lot of them have to have second jobs to make ends meet.

So sure, feel smug. The guy was unpleasant to you, you got revenge and right is on your side.

But his job isn’t great already, and you just made his day a little bit worse. I couldn’t celebrate that to be honest.

Edited

The OP is not responsible for shitty job conditions or that councils don't pay waste collectors a decent wage (although I thought they earn so much more than dinner ladies that equal pay claims are bankrupting councils).
Anyone who's job involves customer service, even if only occasionally and with really irritating customers, should not be shouting at those customers or refusing to explain why something previously acceptable has changed.

piano55 · 20/03/2026 17:56

MrTiddlesTheCat · 20/03/2026 13:00

I do hope you got a nice big ribbon to tie around your rubbish bag next week.

PLEASE do this! Well done OP.

Yardbrushes · 20/03/2026 18:00

My bin men are fab, always so helpful, over 30 long years.
Luck of the draw I guess.

Abitofalark · 20/03/2026 18:30

HalfColdCoffee · 20/03/2026 17:00

Yes! (Well kind of, but the ‘side’ is still in the kerb, and the lorry backs up next to placement of my bins as it makes its turn to leave the cul-de-sac.)

It’s utterly RIDICULOUS isn’t it?

Had he just asked me, instead of deliberately missing my bins for 3 weeks in a row and shouting in my face when I asked him why he wasn’t taking them, I would have changed the placement of my bins (its all there in OP).

But no, the positioning of the bin lorry doesn’t have to change - there’s no space on my small cul-de-sac for it to change position.

Just means a rude and nasty man has been put in his place and has now as a consequence had his bin round made slightly more difficult than it could have been had he acted like a decent human being.

Petty, but completely satisfying ☺️ and yes, I am smug and enjoying it to those that have asked.

Edited

Ah, the lorry drives along the cul de sac road and picks up the rubbish from the front of each house, and then, in order to leave the cul de sac, has to reverse, backing into the gap between your and your neighbour's house to turn and head out. They don't want to pick it up while leaving I would guess because they want to complete the picking up, so that they can all hop on board before reversing to leave.
Binmen have their own way of doing things and I notice here it can change when there is a personnel change on the lorry during holiday times. It doesn't help that we have three separate bin lorries collecting food recycling, landfill, paper and bottles at different times on the same day! A couple of times they've missed my food bin, maybe because it's small, next to the wheeled monsters. Anyway, the council has sorted it out for you.

TheAutumnCrow · 20/03/2026 18:40

GardeningMummy · 20/03/2026 14:11

I’m 100% with you on that man’s behaviour, he was a bully who clearly resents women! However I’m 50/50 on the argument itself as according to your diagram, you were leaving your bins IN your garden and it having been ok for 6 years is neither here nor there tbh; They’re not permitted to go onto people’s property/gardens unless they’re on assisted collections, which you weren’t on until AFTER the argument. He definitely went about it the complete wrong way though, what a bully. Glad it worked out though, anyhow.
I’m on assisted collections and our binmen very rarely remember to go get my wheelie bin! I can’t tell you how many times I’ve had to ring up and complain and occasionally they’ll send someone out specially to get it but 9 times out of 10 it has to wait another 2 weeks until the next scheduled collection and then hope they’ll remember take it! Oh and then because you didn’t get collected, you’ll end up with extra bags next to your wheelie bin which they then won’t take even if they do remember to come, because “We’re not allowed to take extra, love” completely forgetting that the only reason I have ‘extra’ is because they missed me out!
I hope it works better for you than it did for me, OP!

Yes, similar ‘assisted’ stressful shitshow for me, @GardeningMummy!

Whatever their systems are (stickers/address lists/iPads) they don’t work.

I especially couldn’t be bothered with bins blocking my exit from the front door on the rare occasion they did take them. I bet the postie wasn’t impressed either.

TheAutumnCrow · 20/03/2026 18:45

NobodysChildNow · 20/03/2026 17:15

I used to work for a waste and recycling company. The refuse collectors - mostly men - who work there are typically poorly educated. Few people want to be a refuse worker. They get up extraordinarily early in all weathers.

Their routes are often fairly badly planned so the only way they can collect all the bins is by jogging between the bins, and lobbing them back on the kerb. It is a highly time pressured job.

They are not well paid. There is no time to go to the toilet. If they need a wee, pee in a bottle. One of our crew shat in a bag squatting on the street corner; a resident saw him and complained. But there isn’t time or space to answer a call of nature in the cab of the truck, and he couldn’t hold it.

Some of them - particularly the foreign workers - will “hot bed” to save money (they share a bed in a shared house - they sleep in the bed in the afternoon/early evening, whilst their bed-mate who does a day shift sleeps in the bed at night.

Quite a lot of them have to have second jobs to make ends meet.

So sure, feel smug. The guy was unpleasant to you, you got revenge and right is on your side.

But his job isn’t great already, and you just made his day a little bit worse. I couldn’t celebrate that to be honest.

Edited

Those working conditions sound unlawful. You should be complaining to your Cabinet Member for Environmental Services / Resources and/or the Leader of the Council.

Who the hell negotiated and signed that (££millions) contract?

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