To not send my child to nursery - another case of a man abusing children

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https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/ckgldr4mm8eo

This is happening so often these days. It seems there’s a new story every month or so of a male nursery worker sexually abusing children.

Orginally I thought they were just isolated cases but it’s becoming more and more common. I’m losing track of all of the different cases.

I’m pregnant and have decided I won’t be sending my child to the local nursery, I’ll be finding a local female childminder who doesn’t live with a bloke. I’ve had a look at a few and have options.

I don’t believe nurseries are safe anymore.

And will you specify that the CM doesn’t have contact with anyone with a penis at any point?

Vanessa George? Roksana Lecka?

Mind you, they are women so they probably don't fit the narrative.

Do whatever you want with your child. But these cases are so rare. And female nursery staff do it to. Dont shame those of us who do use nursery. Our nursery has a male staff and I haven’t given it a second thought. CM could have anyone come into their house during the day, nurseries just don’t have that happen. If I step foot in our nursery for a meeting or event, they take your phone away immediately. And have very strict procedure for pick up.

Childminders can’t have random men/ relatives popping in to see them when they’re working

They can though. Other than it being against the rules there’s nothing to actually stop them and far less robust mechanisms to uncover incidents than in a nursery setting with more staff to report behaviour and cctv in many spaces.

It isn’t incredibly rare!!

There have been a number of male pedos found guilty and sentenced in Court in my country.

Those are just the ones who have been caught.

I don't think a single poster has said women can't or don't commit these crimes, but the fact is, 98 percent of all sex crimes are committed by men, so if you banned them from settings where vulnerable children are being looked after, you'd cut the risk of abuse dramatically.

We still know Vanessa George's name because it was so unusual for a woman to have committed those crimes.

It is incredibly rare for men or women to sexually abuse children in Uk nurseries.

Not sure what pedos in your country really have to do with the topic.

You think what you like. I know how i feel. Know my daughters are safe

Feelings aren’t facts 😂

So where do you draw the line? Banning male teachers?

Oh, wait. What about Julie Morris (safeguarding lead - couldn't make that up)? Rebecca Joynes? Zoe Williams? Patricia Robertson? Joanne Munro?

Abusers come in all shapes, sizes and sexes.

You do know that nurseries don't just employ 19 year olds right? If you've worked in nurseries you'd also know 50% of the staff are level 3 qualified so think it's insulting to suggest they don't have a clue
Last nursery I worked at there were two teenagers working there, most of the staff were in their 30s and 40s with their own children, do they also not have a clue?

We used both childminders and nurseries; the nurseries had all female staff (very common) and the childminders husband were oit most the day and never with the children alone. My daughter had a male reception teacher who was wonderful but I would worry about a male nursery worker in the baby or toddler rooms. This is very easily avoided though. We preferred childminders to nursery; it was more flexible and they went out and about to the library, childrens centre, parks, soft-play, forest etc.

I agree. I used a childminder initially but only because she is my friend and Dh worked with her DH. I’m godmother one of their DC.

Mine were mostly at nursery which was entirely female- staffed. DH feels even more strongly than I do that we did not want ours at a nursery with male staff.

It’s very, very rare.

children are more likely to be abused by family members or friends sadly.

Honestly i dont care 😂 you do you. Im happy with my choices.

Certainly avoid any nursery employing males

There are lots of sound reasons for not choosing to send a child to nursery but this is not one of them.

Headteacher near me took indecent photos of the children when they were changing at a school near me https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-derbyshire-21351048
it makes you never want to let your kids out, but at some point you do have to stop thinking there are monsters everywhere and trust that there are systems to protect children

Firstly, children in full time nursery spend almost as much time there as they do at home. The numbers do not add up.

And telling women to worry about strangers and not their partner with a temper, or their creepy boss, is just fucking silly.