To not get why I tend to be slimmer when I eat bread

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I never used to think about this, but at some point reduced bread and other carbs presuming this was healthier (!). I certainly didn't eat more calories as a result, but did gain a bit of weight. This wasn't a problem so I moved on and forgot about it.

A few years later I began to incorporate bread again and my weight went back down to where it had previously been before .

And again at some point I stopped eating it in an experiment to see if it was better for my gut, and I similarly gained some weight. I more recently returned to eating bread (homemade this time!) and some weight has, again, fallen off. This is only interesting since I hear the opposite happens most of the time, especially on the web.

Some details:
I only ever ate it once per day.
It was/is usually white bread, but either sourdough or a homemade pitta or pizza base.
I eat it with tons of different veg recipes, alternating with lean meat, feta, humous, salads, fish.
I am a healthy weight and don't have any food related health issues or allergies.
When I quit the bread, I replaced it with more veg, certainly not an increase in fats or other carbs.

I mention this now because I recently gave it up again, about a month ago, as have been making new recipes with DH. It has been replaced by more veg (again), and sometimes a bit of quinoa, more legumes and beans.
And I have gained a good few pounds

It seems that bread likes me, as looking back, I always felt more satiated and fit as a fiddle when incorporating it. I am wondering if anyone has experienced this and knows why it happens??

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I'm presuming it isn't good since most info tells me bread is inflammation death

I’ve had this and wondered the same and why I torture myself to not eat it
a simple sarnie isn’t too bad on the cals and gives the energy to move around
quinoa is v high in cals

I hadn't thought about higher cals, but noticed many carbs are similar per 100g.

It's a pain though because everything I read tells me bread is crap for me, yet I feel satiated and good when I eat it.

I recall someone on the BBC I think saying he had tested himself and his wife to see how they processed carbs and fats, and he was sad to learn that he didn't get along with eating croissants for breakfast, whereas his wife deat with them fine.
He, on the other hand, dealt better processing fats than she did.
Maybe it's something like that?

I live on bread! Sourdough toast for breakfast, a banana toastie or similar for lunch and would have it for dinner if I lived on my own! Bread and whole grains keep me full, but I am completely the opposite with protein, protein leaves me starving, so the current protein protein protein message does not suit me at all, my diet works for me and has helped keep me slim all my adult life.

Glad to hear someone else loves their bread!

I read on here the other week that I am likely to get diabetes if I eat it regularly, which made me feel like shit.

I don't get along with fatty, mushy or oily things, and wonder if I love some bread because it's 'drier'? I am ok with protein thankfully, but fats always make me feel groggy. I do eat it in moderate amounts though, as I am a cheese lover!

Weight gain / loss is ALL about the amount of calories in and out.

Bread is only the ‘devil’ if you eat too much of it and go over your recommended daily calorie intake. But that’s the same for all foods.

Everything is fine in moderation and if you remain within daily amount of calories.

For every 3500 calories over your weekly allowance, you’ll gain a pound. Unless you burn this off through exercise.

Bread is delicious, filling, and satisfying. I had a ham baguette for lunch yesterday - hand carved ham, lettuce, slices of beef tomato, proper butter, a twist of salt and pepper…perfection.

I wish this were me - every time I eat bread/paratha/chapati/naan/pizza I look pregnant.

I’ve worked out that for me it’s the yeast. If I eat bread without yeast I’m ok (as long as I don’t eat too much). If I eat bread with yeast I bloat.

This is correlation, not causation. There is no way bread helps you lose weight or giving it up makes you gain weight. Equally there is nothing wrong with eating bread in moderation and it's not going to give you diabetes. You sound quite naive about how the body works.

Humans have been eating bread for thousands of years. Proper bread (ideally without emulsifiers etc) is nourishing and fine as part of a balanced diet.

But honestly I'd ignore that and get off MN for diet advice. There are lots of people here who eat very restrictively and will push odd ideas about food without much in the way of evidence.

I wonder if you unconsciously eat more grains and subconsciously hold back more on the bread.

Whenever I’m doing a calorie deficit and weigh all my food, I can’t believe how tiny a 100g portion of quinoa/couscous/rice is! In contrast, 100g of sourdough is a regular slice.

Also, sandwiches and bread dishes are typically very simple. E.g. sourdough with some avocado and a boiler egg. Not much need to add extra calories. Rice on its own always needs a main dish, which could be anything from a curry to a beef stroganoff. Perhaps you eat more of the latter?

Living in France has made me appreciate bread so much, and when I move back to my home country later this year, I’m not exaggerating when I say that the bread will be the main thing that I miss!!

You’re replacing it with higher fibre foods (vegetables, quinoa, legumes). My guess is more bloating causing weight gain. But it’s not fat, it’s air. Or it’s quite possible that veg, quinoa, legumes is more calorie dense than a slice of sourdough. There’s really not many calories in a slice of bread or a pita, not as much as in a lentil salad with olive oil dressing, for example.

There's a lot of scaremongering nonsense online. If bread was that bad, most people would be diabetic. Don't overdo it and you'll be fine.

Exactly this.
People get so tied in knots about bad and good food.
Eat in a calorie deficit and you lose weight. In a surplus you’ll gain.

I read that article too and vaguely remember it was something to with blood type - keto/low carb really works for some people but not all and some can handle simple carbs very well. Sounds like you are the latter - I wouldn’t worry about the health implications of a slice of sourdough at all. Carbohydrates are a key food group and are really only removed from diets for vanity i.e weight loss reasons not for health.

And you are an expert?

I've probably eaten bread for lunch almost every day of my life. I'm almost 57 and always been slim.

It fills me up until dinnertime and I suspect if I didn't eat it, I'd probably need to snack.

I don't need to be an expert to understand basic physics, psychology and biology!

Bread doesn’t make you put on weight. Eating 4 slices of it at a time does.

I'm sorry op but do you not see how crazy this is? You know through your own experience that you have no issues eating bread and yet, because of some stuff you've read online you don't think you should eat bread?!

Bread is and always has been fine. We need carbs. The whole inflammation nonsense you read online is largely bollocks unless you have some kind of diagnosed condition.

Eat the bread. Stop believing daft stuff you read online.

This could be it, thanks for that.
I hadn't given it a lot of thought, but wondered why veg would have that effect. but it very well may be the addition of a lot more legumes. My gut seems to enjoy all of the fibre but I definitely pile a bit on!

I am happy for you <3

You are right, the internet can really hyper focus on such things. I will step away from the bread threads!