((TW Animal Abuse)) Some people are evil.

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Some people are pure evil.

Reading another thread, this was mentioned. I mean what the heck, paying people to torture baby monkeys, just why?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/extra/Iot1dIWVS5/hunting-the-monkey-torturers

Warning report contains details of torture for 'fun'

Well done the BBC investigators.

Vile, sick, individuals

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-65951188

Unbelievably sick. I wish these vile people could experience what the baby monkeys went through.

I'm not clicking on your links OP but yes, the wickedness of this is enough to destroy any remaining faith I have in the decency of the human race.

I couldn't believe anyone could be so sick.in the head.

The investigation was hard to read.

"At least 20 people are now under investigation globally, including three women living in the UK who were arrested by police last year and released under investigation, and one man in the US state of Oregon who was indicted last week.

Mike Macartney, a key video distributor in the US known by his screen name, "The Torture King", agreed to speak to the BBC - and described the moment he joined his first Telegram monkey torture group."

Pretty sure your warning should've been in your thread title.

But YANBU of course even though I'm not going to click the links.

Sadly, its on mainstream sites so children might come across these videos

"Facebook told the BBC it had removed the groups we brought to the company's attention. "We don't allow the promotion of animal abuse on our platforms and we remove this content when we become aware of it, like we did in this case," a spokesperson said.

Ms Kite also called for UK laws to be updated to make it easier to prosecute individuals who pay for torture videos to be made. "If someone is proactively involved in inflicting that pain by paying for it and providing a list of things they want done to the animal, there should be stronger laws to hold them to account," she said.

YouTube told the BBC in a statement that animal abuse had "no place" on the platform and the company was "working hard to quickly remove violative content".

"Just this year alone, we've removed hundreds of thousands of videos and terminated thousands of channels for violating our violent and graphic policies," the statement said."

I'll ask mn to change it. Thanks

To be fair the links dont show it, that would be disgusting. The story talks of the investigation, but its hard reading it

It is unbearable. I wish humans would end.

This surely just indicates your own personality is somewhat disturbed itself.

These people, as cruel, callous, and repulsive as they are, are still very much human and responsible for their own aberrant behaviours. I don't believe in "evil" as it's just an abstract concept we use to hide from the fact that human beings not all that different to ourselves are perfectly capable of doing totally unconscionable things, but if you genuinely would be happy to torture and kill human beings because of their own torturing and killing, then you are indistinguishable from the people you are claiming repulse you.

@mn

Are you able to amend title to say articles contain some talk of what people were arrested for? ⚠️

Its an 'expression', I wouldn't torture anyone, I'd lock them up in prison forever though. Poor choice of words I think.

Fair enough.

I totally understand your revulsion. I just shake my head every time there is a crime/justice thread pops up on here because it invariably fills up with users screaming for the same thing to be done to perpetrators that the same users are screaming blue murder about, and the lack of self-awareness and hypocrisy astonishes me.

I agree. However I had to work hard to not think about what we were doing to monkeys, trying to find treatments and a vaccination for Covid. I hate any form of animal abuse, dogs left outside, rabbits in small hutches etc.

I'm sorry

Lucy Kapetanich and Dave Gooptar are amazing people uncovering and reporting so people can be arrested.

I recall seeing this article a year or so ago.

It is horrific, and unfortunately only the tip of the iceberg, and strongly associated with abuse of babies and children of all ages. There was an Australian man who lived somewhere like Phillipines/Thailand, who was arrested for live streaming extremely violent abuse of children.

It is a major problem in this world- the people who do it are from poor countries, its easy money and they unbelievably disconnect themselves from the horror of it. The people who pay have a screen in front of them and find it funny to suggest more and more depraved ideas.

The worst thing, is that these people get short sentences.

I'm afraid some people behave disgustingly.
In my news feeds this week there has been a story of a woman from Epsom who dumped 25 cats in a bin 9n a hot day - 8 at the bottom of the bin died - crushed to death. Another story about a woman from Tewksbury who had kept a slave for 20 years.
Sadly some people are just bastards.

Some people don't deserve to be alive, scum.

I bloody love monkeys, gorillas, orangutans and apes. The thought that people enjoy torturing them breaks my heart.

I won’t click the link as it would break my heart but I agree with you.

Some people are fucking awful and they should be lined up and shot.
No prison sentence needed.

Animals should have the same protections as people.
These scum should be treated the same way as if they were doing this to children (which they probably are).

It's the first I'd heard of this. It's so awful. There should be much tougher sentences.

I agree it's terrible - this dates back to 2023, I remember seeing the investigation at the time.

if you genuinely would be happy to torture and kill human beings because of their own torturing and killing, then you are indistinguishable from the people you are claiming repulse you.
I certainly wouldn't torture anyone, but I feel so much disgust at deliberate cruelty towards a sentient being I feel I could end the life of the perpetrators. I suspect, as someone who gets upset at seeing a squashed rabbit on the roadside, has always rescued wasps/spiders etc. and never even held a firearm I probably wouldn't be able to, but my horror at these evil people makes me feel murderous.

Was watching a guy last night who was saying that 7.5 percent of Australian men are involved in some way shape or form in child pornography. And he says he thinks those figures are undercooked. Some guy that works busting them or something I was only half listening. But whats that like, one in 12? And let's face it, it'll be the same here in the UK.

Do you have a link to that? Interested to read more