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To wonder what happens to the maids and nannies etc when people flee Dubai/the Middle East

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morningmists · 12/03/2026 07:42

I saw news stories of lots of pets being left behind, but I can't see any mention of the maids and nannies etc ? I am guessing it wouldn't always be simple to get them to England due to visas etc -so do they get booked on flights back to their homes?

My mum had a nanny growing up and she loved her as much as she loved her mum so I imagine this is a hard separation for some

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Sprawling · 12/03/2026 14:56

Jdnd · 12/03/2026 14:36

The US State Department currently ranks the UAE as Tier 2, indicating it does not fully meet the minimum standards for eliminating trafficking but is making "significant efforts" to do so.

This is the State Department's independent assessment. Ireland is also tier 2.

I'm not going to say it's all hunky dory and perfect, but improvements are being made. My family there treat the maids well, pay them fairly and don't hide their passports.

I think you've misunderstood. The kafala system is not 'trafficking' in the sense of getting someone to engage in labour in another country via force, coercion, fraud. We're talking about the treatment of domestic servants who are recruited with the full knowledge that they will be working in the UAE as domestic servants.

ThisSunnyBee · 12/03/2026 15:01

Sprawling · 12/03/2026 08:38

No pinch of salt needed. I didn’t have a maid when we lived there. We had an agency cleaner a couple of times a week, which turned out to be pretty much as ethically problematic, as overall, I’d say the agency cleaner conditions were worse than those of someone living with a decent family — though ours went home to Sri Lanka and is married with children now, and DH is still FB friends with her).

And I’m sure there were families who were fair with their employees, insofar as a highly exploitative system of cheap domestic labour could ever be described as “fair”.

But when I lived in Dubai, ‘ma’am’ problems with maids were one of the main conversation topics at expat coffee mornings, or on the Dubai Expat Woman chat forum (not sure if it still exists — it was pretty much AIBU with servants and women-only public service queues).

You can imagine the potential for covert power struggles.

Lower-middle-class Brit from a semi-detached in Luton suddenly able to afford FT live-in domestic help when not used to employing staff.

Poorly-paid, often younger woman from overseas with few other employment opportunities, living inside the house of a family with unimaginably more money and opportunities than her. Many had children in their home countries they were supporting, so became very fond of the children, and sometimes that didn’t sit well with the ma’am.

I remember one woman throwing a fit because her maid kept putting her favourite (the maid’s) outfits on the children before taking them somewhere they would see other maids, to show them off, and then changing them out of them again before the mother came home. Various folk beliefs from their home countries they continued to obey, despite being told not to, like putting a thread on the baby’s forehead if it got hiccups, or there was some Filipino taboo about ironing having to be done after everything else, so a maid was refuse to iron first thing etc etc.

Lots of paranoia about the ‘maid mafia’ gossiping about their families while walking the family dogs, and employers trying to prevent their maid walking the dog at the same time as other maids. Photos of maid trying on her employers clothes or jewellery. Having her boyfriend round when employers out. And yes, in some cases, an employer feeling the maid was targeting her husband with extra attentions, making food he liked, ironing his favourite shirt etc etc. Added to all the complaints Mners have about their cleaners.

It was sometimes a real hot mess. Again, it’s a while since we lived there, so my information may be somewhat outdated, but the small, covert power struggles between a poor person living in her comparatively rich employers’ house probably haven’t.

That's interesting insight from someone who has actually lived there as opposed to someone from Luton 😅

bafta16 · 12/03/2026 15:33

Must be a hideously expolitative situation.

bafta16 · 12/03/2026 16:11

Why can't they do their own ironing and dress their kids?

ThatCyanCat · 12/03/2026 16:21

bafta16 · 12/03/2026 16:11

Why can't they do their own ironing and dress their kids?

Dust, apparently.

topcat2014 · 12/03/2026 16:29

Do we have to take all these failed influencers back into the UK..

Boomer55 · 12/03/2026 16:31

morningmists · 12/03/2026 07:42

I saw news stories of lots of pets being left behind, but I can't see any mention of the maids and nannies etc ? I am guessing it wouldn't always be simple to get them to England due to visas etc -so do they get booked on flights back to their homes?

My mum had a nanny growing up and she loved her as much as she loved her mum so I imagine this is a hard separation for some

They are left behind in their own country, usually. .

Fifiesta · 12/03/2026 16:41

StormySpanielz · 12/03/2026 08:00

Was this in Dubai though, or a similar economy effectively fuelled by modern day slavery?

Is there a difference?

bafta16 · 12/03/2026 17:19

Sprawling · 12/03/2026 16:42

This is the Imdad Centre's (big domestic labour recruiter) thoughts on why you need a maid:

https://imdadhr.ae/blog/the-advantages-of-having-a-live-in-maid-in-dubai/

and a piece from The National about how small maid's rooms in new developments are, sometimes too small for a standard single bed, only fitting a child's bed.

https://www.thenationalnews.com/uae/developers-in-uae-marketing-storage-space-as-maids-quarters-1.448646

Makes me puke.

Ionlymakejokestodistractmyself · 12/03/2026 17:27

Nannies are generally not treated well even here.

We had one and when she got pregnant we sorted mat pay for her. She was amazed - apparently most nannies are just let go when they get pregnant themselves. (This was a few years ago so things might be better now)

FloofBunny · 12/03/2026 17:37

WaryCrow · 12/03/2026 12:10

This has a brief mention of taxi drivers and lower status servants from Dubai https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/mar/11/the-shine-has-been-taken-off-dubai-faces-existential-threat-as-foreigners-flee-conflict

So of course our government is going to welcome these servant owners ‘home’ to the country they refused to pay taxes to, at our expense. Fucking hell. And of course Britain has exploitative practices here, it’s called ‘working’ especially in the public sectors. This world is fucked up now thanks to would be serf owners.

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But when you say welcome them home to the country they refused to pay taxes to, what do you mean? No Brits who live abroad anywhere pay tax to Britain. This is very different from America, who taxes its citizens worldwide. So an American living in Britain would pay British tax and American tax. I think America is the only country in the world who levies taxes on people who don't live there. But British people who live in Australia, Spain, America etc. don't pay tax to Britain. (All this is relating to income tax, of course.)

I'm curious as to whether you feel the same way about British people who live abroad in other countries, or just in Dubai?

FloofBunny · 12/03/2026 17:41

Zimunya · 12/03/2026 12:26

This is exactly the right thing to do :)

I wouldn't dream of not funding their flight home, plus I would pay their wages for a few extra months, too.

FloofBunny · 12/03/2026 17:52

trumpisvomitous · 12/03/2026 12:46

I agree, airheads are gonna airhead!

I am really not OK with demonising an entire group of people, just because they chose to have an adventure and live abroad! And, airheads? Many, many Dubai expats are teachers, or working in tech, or working at other big companies. If you're talking about influencers, they can earn a lot of money by doing promotions with big companies if the influencer has a large following. They can get, say, 40k for a post or video. I would bet that building a large following is not as easy as it looks.

I'd be happy to be called an airhead if I was savvy enough to get paid what some influencers do!

FloofBunny · 12/03/2026 17:56

moto748e · 12/03/2026 13:04

You just can't get the staff! 😁

😄😄😄

CaptainMyCaptain · 12/03/2026 18:05

Twooclockrock · 12/03/2026 14:27

Most people I know who live in the middle east are staying put. There are something like 300k brits living in the region, i think only a small percentage are returning or have returned already.
With regarda to the nannies and maids, I don't think they have such deep bonds as your mums nanny, if they do and the family is wealthy enough they will find a way to bring them or support them. But usually they don't have these bonds
I was in a corner store in kuwait when working there a few years ago and overheard some nannies talking and they were talking about the fact their employers didnt even provide them with drinking water...as they were buying their own water and food.

That is disgusting. Not even provided with water.

FloofBunny · 12/03/2026 18:06

PurpleThistle7 · 12/03/2026 13:27

I highly doubt 99% of British people fleeing the middle east have had a single thought for the underpaid staff they're leaving behind.

I do agree that capitalism means that poor people look for opportunities some could think they might be better off working for pennies in Dubai than starving to death in the Philippines. That seems to be the argument for it - that it's probably better than the alternative. Which is really depressing. And I know that it's not the only problem in the world - almost everything is pretty unsettling when you really look into it; buying petrol, shopping on Amazon, etc. etc. But I think it takes a certain sort of person to deliberately participate in a personal relationship that is this unbalanced and have it literally staring you in the face every single day. It makes me really uncomfortable to think about.

That is a sweeping generalisation, Purple. Why would you think such a thing? Us Brits are not generally known for being cruel slave-drivers. I would assume that most British people would pay for their helper's flight home and give them a few months' wages. I would, anyway, and so would everyone I know.

Also, you talk about a personal relationship that is unbalanced, but again, why the assumption that British people are exploiting and underpaying their helpers? Maybe I'm naive, but I really would think that any Brits employing staff would treat them well and pay them well. We are not a culture that treats others badly. Not, say, like in India or South America, where staff are often treated very inhumanely.

FloofBunny · 12/03/2026 18:07

CaptainMyCaptain · 12/03/2026 18:05

That is disgusting. Not even provided with water.

Hopefully those employers were not British.

Sprawling · 12/03/2026 18:11

FloofBunny · 12/03/2026 18:06

That is a sweeping generalisation, Purple. Why would you think such a thing? Us Brits are not generally known for being cruel slave-drivers. I would assume that most British people would pay for their helper's flight home and give them a few months' wages. I would, anyway, and so would everyone I know.

Also, you talk about a personal relationship that is unbalanced, but again, why the assumption that British people are exploiting and underpaying their helpers? Maybe I'm naive, but I really would think that any Brits employing staff would treat them well and pay them well. We are not a culture that treats others badly. Not, say, like in India or South America, where staff are often treated very inhumanely.

Brits in Dubai are paying their servants the going rate, which is the equivalent of about £600 a month, for eight- to ten-hour days, six days a week. Does that strike you as overwhelmingly generous?

FloofBunny · 12/03/2026 18:18

Sprawling · 12/03/2026 18:11

Brits in Dubai are paying their servants the going rate, which is the equivalent of about £600 a month, for eight- to ten-hour days, six days a week. Does that strike you as overwhelmingly generous?

No, that's awful. But how do you know what Brits are paying these days?

sittingonabeach · 12/03/2026 18:21

Are maids ever male?

Do English maids/nannies ever go to work in Dubai, as we are constantly told on here by many posters it is a wonderful place to live?

Carla786 · 12/03/2026 18:46

sittingonabeach · 12/03/2026 18:21

Are maids ever male?

Do English maids/nannies ever go to work in Dubai, as we are constantly told on here by many posters it is a wonderful place to live?

I wonder?

Carla786 · 12/03/2026 18:49

FloofBunny · 12/03/2026 18:06

That is a sweeping generalisation, Purple. Why would you think such a thing? Us Brits are not generally known for being cruel slave-drivers. I would assume that most British people would pay for their helper's flight home and give them a few months' wages. I would, anyway, and so would everyone I know.

Also, you talk about a personal relationship that is unbalanced, but again, why the assumption that British people are exploiting and underpaying their helpers? Maybe I'm naive, but I really would think that any Brits employing staff would treat them well and pay them well. We are not a culture that treats others badly. Not, say, like in India or South America, where staff are often treated very inhumanely.

The culture in Dubai seems to encourage underpaying.

And the kafala system is exploitative by design.

I'm proud to be British, but it seems naive to assume British people are necessarily much less likely to be cruel.

Remember domestic service was common until not that long ago, and there was often unfair treatment. Sexual harassment by masters, for one. Or the fact that masters & mistresses would often decide on a new name for a servant if they thought their real name was too fancy & might make them uppity.

SemiRetiredLoveGoddeess · 12/03/2026 18:52

More to the point. What about their tax dodging employers reimbursing the British Government for the cost of flying them out of Dubai?

Carla786 · 12/03/2026 18:53

I'll also say that I went to a private school & most people I knew were nice. But people I came across in the wider network of schools sometimes had horrible attitudes to their Filipina housekeepers.

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