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Are you worried about conscription… *trigger warning - discusses risks of war**

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Shushhh · 08/03/2026 22:20

I don’t know why, but I feel like a huge penny has dropped for me today, on the risks we all face in such uncertain times. I have thought about my nephews, who are 17 and 16. If WW3 happens, they would be at risk of conscription I would imagine, as they turn 18. This has petrified me. They are still babies to me (although I know they are older and wiser than I give them credit for). My husband is a soldier, so I am aware of the risks he faces. Of course I am worried for him too. But I’m just worried for us all. I am worried for our children. Where will they go? Will it be like old war times when they were evacuated? Will my brothers be conscripted? Will females also be put on the front lines? And ultimately, will we survive this.

I know this is scary, and I’m hoping my anxiety (previously diagnosed) is getting the better of me here. But it doesn’t feel like anxiety. It feels like real fear and a real threat.

AIBU?

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ThatPearlkitty · 09/03/2026 01:03

Walkden · 09/03/2026 01:00

"It’s naive to think WW3 won’t happen; the US military is literally a death cult that believes they have to start WW3 to bring Jesus back and are doing their utmost to bring the Revelations chapter of the Bible to life."

Maybe it is - but ww3 won't happen due to the Iran us/ Israeli war.

And it's a bit ridiculous to say people are naive because trump and the us military are "literally" doing this to resurrect jesus 😂

if usa gave control of the military or put it to a vote of who to go to war with the general public would be alot more war willing than trump himself

hcee19 · 09/03/2026 01:17

Equal opportunities, should apply to both male and female, cannot cherry pick. We are living in uncertain times, but there isn't anything we can really do about it..l think the media likes nothing better to stir up panic amongst us, talking about conscription...no one else is ..

Carla786 · 09/03/2026 01:36

Itsmetheflamingo · 08/03/2026 22:28

I’m not- wars are fought with technology now, and it’s certainly a great distance to Iran so I can’t see the need for physical presence of huge numbers of British adults?!

what are you envisioning they're to be used for?

Wars now can't just be fought with drones. Ukraine still has boots on the ground.

Carla786 · 09/03/2026 01:41

JustCabbaggeLooking · 09/03/2026 00:20

I'm old. It's always been like this. Stop worrying, it'll all fizzle out.Flowers

Well...covid happened, sometimes things do happen. WW2 happened, it's not accurate to say war wouldn't happen just bc stuff like the Cold War fizzled out.

I agree that OP should not get into a panic though.

Carla786 · 09/03/2026 01:44

shuffleofftobuffalo · 08/03/2026 23:26

My dyslexic brain read that as are you worried about constipation, then I saw war, then I thought oh no I’ll be trapped under my kitchen table after a nuclear bomb eating dog food unable to crap (Children of the Dust anyone?)

I think wars are so remote and hi tech these days it’s not like thousands of people are needed on the ground and there aren’t tens of spare jets waiting for pilots. So no, I’m not worried about conscription. “Everyone” is generally only useful in war when you need extra cannon fodder.

Wars aren't simply remote and hi tech. Ukraine war has boots on the ground. Drones can't solve all the problems.

Growlybear83 · 09/03/2026 01:49

Im sure there are plans in place for conscription if things escalate significantly. The government drew up plans for conscription during the Falklands conflict, although I realise the world was very different then.

Carla786 · 09/03/2026 01:55

“I’ve been sitting in private committee briefings with senior officials, and they say there’s a good chance we’ll be in a war before the next election. I think that’s right, that’s my view,” Mike Martin, the Liberal Democrat MP for Tunbridge Wells, elected to parliament in the 2024 election, tells me. “There’s certainly more than a 50% chance we’ll be involved in a war before 2030.”

. Martin is a former British Army officer who served multiple tours of Afghanistan, picked up a PhD in war studies and has authored books including 2023’s How to Fight a War.

It’ll all be professional soldiers and drones though, you might think. A modern war for modern times. “Obviously if we got into a big war, we’d have conscription straight away,” says Martin.

The Ukraine war has shown how, despite all the high-tech advances, modern wars still involve soldiers digging trenches like they did in the First World War.

“Would we need to conscript? Yeah, we would. Because ultimately, we’re not at a stage yet where you can replace people with drones,” says Martin. “We’re a long way off from that. Drones are fine, as far as they go, but you still need people to occupy villages, hold ground, and all the rest of it. And that’s not going to change for quite some time.”

“Despite the fact that we are in a really precarious international situation, the government has no desire to talk about defense and security, because if they acknowledge the pretty parlous state of the British military, they open up another front of more people arguing for more spending, so they make their lives difficult.”

https://www.bigissue.com/news/politics/uk-war-mike-martin-interview-defence-spending-conscription/

I don't necessarily agree with all of these but pp's posts about drones being adequate to fight are not realistic.

UK will be at war by next election, says ex-Army Lib Dem MP

Soldier turned MP Mike Martin predicts government will have to find almost £20bn a year for defence, and says a war by 2030 is on the cards.

https://www.bigissue.com/news/politics/uk-war-mike-martin-interview-defence-spending-conscription/

Carla786 · 09/03/2026 01:56

1apenny2apenny · 08/03/2026 22:41

No I’m not worried because my children won’t be doing it, if necessary they’ll leave the country.

Im not sure how they’d make it work - I suppose send all the fit and healthy young people, the ones currently keeping the country afloat? Too many would cry off for various reasons, no way are my children going to fight in a war especially one in the ME that is based on a knuckle dragging religion.

Leave the country?

If we were at war you wouldn't be able to do that. You would need to move earlier.

And how do you know the country you move to, if European, won't end up on the war too?

ShakeNCake · 09/03/2026 07:55

The chief of the secret intelligence service says the UK is in a state between peace and war called the 'grey zone'.
Our military have been responding to drones in UK air space over the last year, especially around UK military sites with links to US, likely Russia.
Our Navy have been dealing with increasingly brazen incursions into our waters by Russian vessels.
We have also had an incident on UK soil, where the DHL delivery warehouse was involved. The same happened in Germany.
In the last day the Iranians have confirmed the Russian and Iranian military have a close relationship, but won't give any further detail.
In WW2 people weren't just conscripted to defend the UKs borders, they were sent abroad into conflict. My grandad served in the Middle East.
So, even if geographically we do not need soldiers at home around the coast, there is a potential for this to grow into a wider multi-national conflict, for there to be drone attacks in the UK as well and cyber and supply chain attacks, and for citizens to be conscripted to fight for British interests abroad.

Boomer55 · 09/03/2026 08:03

Having lived through the Cold War and many other ‘threats’ I can’t really get too fussed about all this. It’s highly unlikely that there will be conscription over here.

This is Trump and Netanyahu’s little tantrums. 🙄

Evacuation wasn’t compulsory in the last war - my mother and family stayed in the East End throughout.

But, one thing that’s clear is that the cost of living will go up over here, because of gas and oil.

NotAnotherScarf · 09/03/2026 08:04

Theroadt · 08/03/2026 23:26

Shotguns only work on small drones closer-range. ME is using expensive US anti-drone missiles and it’ll be a case of who runs out first

True but for the Tommy on the ground, they will be very important.

Itsmetheflamingo · 09/03/2026 08:15

It’s not about young people* refusing to be conscripted. Whilst I am not suggesting this will happen in the uk, the reason people join the military in active conflict is not some sentimental sense of pride, it’s to be protected.

When there are no jobs to go to, they have no income, the mortgage company are calling, the supermarket shelves are empty and youre queuing for a £30 loaf of bread, crime is rampent because everyone is desperate then it’ll be an easier decision to be welcomed into the arms of the military. Bed, board, regular food and medical care are all very attractive when the future offers nothing.

*I don’t know why people on here are suggesting they wouldn’t be conscripted. The oldest age for a serving soldier is well under 40.

Nannyfannybanny · 09/03/2026 08:19

No

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Ginmonkeyagain · 09/03/2026 08:40

I mean we aren't invovlved n this war and there have been two actual wars in the Middle East since the 90s that we did fight in, and no one was conscripted.

And no Iran cannnot hit the UK with drones.

I would advise getting a fucking grip.

Dappy777 · 09/03/2026 09:42

I doubt there will be a major war in my lifetime, but who knows. If you had told someone in 1910 that 800,000 British soldiers would soon be killed in a war, he'd have refused to believe you.

But who do you think is going to fight? Most young British men I know would refuse. My cousin, for example, is football mad, but he won't watch England in the World Cup because, as he puts it, "I don't feel English anymore." I have actually talked about this before with friends and family. One of my friend's sons said (word for word) "during the flag protests, my brother hung a union jack and a St George up in our street. One day, a small crowd pulled them down and filmed it and cheered. Why would I risk my life for a country like that?"

The Left have got what they wanted. They've made us ashamed of our history and our culture, and they've used mass immigration to create a new identity. Fine. But you can't have it both ways. You can't sneer at somebody's history, impose a new identity on them, and then expect them to fight for you. Zack Polanski and Owen Jones and Hannah Spencer can go and fight.

Ginmonkeyagain · 09/03/2026 09:45

If it is proper conscription - you can't just refuse to fight.

Ginmonkeyagain · 09/03/2026 09:47

It's all a moot point anyway, as we are not going to see conscription any time soon to fight a war we are ... umm .... not currently waging.

EasternStandard · 09/03/2026 09:51

Ginmonkeyagain · 09/03/2026 08:40

I mean we aren't invovlved n this war and there have been two actual wars in the Middle East since the 90s that we did fight in, and no one was conscripted.

And no Iran cannnot hit the UK with drones.

I would advise getting a fucking grip.

Yes to this. A war such aa Ukraine where Putin thinks nothing of sending millions to die or be injured is more worrying for anyone close, and for the poor Russians. Hopefully we’d not try on that one.

Itsmetheflamingo · 09/03/2026 09:55

Dappy777 · 09/03/2026 09:42

I doubt there will be a major war in my lifetime, but who knows. If you had told someone in 1910 that 800,000 British soldiers would soon be killed in a war, he'd have refused to believe you.

But who do you think is going to fight? Most young British men I know would refuse. My cousin, for example, is football mad, but he won't watch England in the World Cup because, as he puts it, "I don't feel English anymore." I have actually talked about this before with friends and family. One of my friend's sons said (word for word) "during the flag protests, my brother hung a union jack and a St George up in our street. One day, a small crowd pulled them down and filmed it and cheered. Why would I risk my life for a country like that?"

The Left have got what they wanted. They've made us ashamed of our history and our culture, and they've used mass immigration to create a new identity. Fine. But you can't have it both ways. You can't sneer at somebody's history, impose a new identity on them, and then expect them to fight for you. Zack Polanski and Owen Jones and Hannah Spencer can go and fight.

Your cousin and friends son sound really… dim. And over dramatic. Are they just attention seekers maybe?

WhatATimeToBeAlive · 09/03/2026 09:58

Why is there a trigger warning on this post for discussing war?

cramptramp · 09/03/2026 10:01

No I’m not worried nor do I think the mention of war or conscription warrants a trigger warning. My family are in the forces. If they have to go to war I’ll worry about them then. Until then, nope.

FFSToEverythingSince2020 · 09/03/2026 10:19

Octavia64 · 08/03/2026 22:21

No.

America is fighting this bloody war and they don’t have conscription.

even Russia which is fighting a land war in Europe doesn’t have conscription.

I don’t necessarily agree with OP’s concerns, but this line of reasoning is on a hiding to nowhere. Of course America doesn’t have conscription - they’ve got 1.3 million people in their military! And then a further 800K reserve members. So first they would call up ALL their reserves before they started conscripting, so you’re talking about a place that can wield a 2 milllion person army. So, 0.66% of the American population is already part of its military.

The UK has: 141,000 active military members and 70K reservists. That’s only 0.35% of your population, so half the size of the US military in comparison to its population.

The UK would need twice the amount of bodies to be on the same “level” of not needing conscription as the US. Though I do think if it comes to that, they’ll do what the Swiss do - mandatory service, but not necessarily fighting, and then they use those who don’t have full military training to do a lot of the military/war administrative stuff. Wars create an ungodly amount of paperwork - procurement, international cooperation or negotiations, and on and on.

I mean, I would be more concerned about an Iranian plan that would involve another 9/11 style attack, but much more organized and officially state sponsored. I actually thought something would have already happened in either the UK or US. I hope this continues to only be a problem thousands of miles from here, but…. Who knows.

1apenny2apenny · 09/03/2026 10:35

So how exactly would they force people? We have high levels of people with disabilities so I assume they would be excluded? But at what level? If a big portion of young people refused which I
suspect would happen how would they actually make them join and train?

Ginmonkeyagain · 09/03/2026 10:55

How did the force people in WW1 1 - using the law - specifically the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Service_(Armed_Forces)_Act_1939

People who were unfit/exempt were assigned war work. Those who refused could be jailed.

National Service (Armed Forces) Act 1939 - Wikipedia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Service_(Armed_Forces)_Act_1939