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Crappy paper on Amazon books

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BookLover1990x · 07/03/2026 19:22

Whenever I order a non-fiction book from Amazon now, it is usually printed by Amazon themselves and the paper quality SUCKS. The pages are wavy and the paper is thinner than regular books printed by a publisher.

There is no way of knowing in advance if the book will be Amazon printed or not. AIBU to think they should have to flag it up?

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Upondingledanglehill · 08/03/2026 15:13

I just checked the publisher of my shitty non fiction book and it's a proper publisher! So I'm even more disappointed now

Somersetbaker · 08/03/2026 16:51

Another thing you find, perhaps more applicable to e-readers, though sometimes the book is available as a hardcopy, is that a pre-computer age book that was originally typeset and printed the old fashioned way, is scanned and then republished from the scans, nobody wants to go to the effort of retyping the text, generating new drawings or finding original versions of photographs.Amazon are not the only people doing this, I have one on my desk at the moment which is a facsimile copy published by the British Library.

JoWawa · 08/03/2026 17:11

AtomicBlondeRose · 07/03/2026 19:51

They’re basically pirated. You have to make sure it’s from the original publisher.

It could just be print on demand.

FrontlistFarce · 08/03/2026 18:55

BookLover1990x · 07/03/2026 23:30

I am not referring to self-published books or knock off books sold by third parties through Amazon. The books are published by a variety of household name publishers. Amazon then prints them (I presume to order) at their own facility. They do not use the same quality paper as the original publisher.

No, Amazon don't offer you to keep the book when it is £20+ and you say you want to return it.

You're right, loads of publishers choose to use Amazon's printing capabilities (KEP) to manage their stock. It doesn't mean they are pirated, AI generated or self published books at all. So checking the content/ ISBN/ pictures make no difference as they use the files publishers send to Amazon's Kindle programme.

It's all about stock control essentially. As another PP said, it makes available books that have very low sales numbers which don't make financial sense to keep in print through traditional methods. But for better selling titles, it means if Amazon get more orders in than they have stock, they can print copies themselves to supply customer orders without going out of stock/ making customers wait. But as you've found, one is the issues is their KEP offering is pretty basic, the paper stock is pretty default and it can't handle special finishes, covers, hardbacks etc.

It's a delicate balance, especially for smaller publishers on consignment accounts, as so often Amazon orders way more stock than they need. Which then diminishes a publishers stock so much that they need to reprint stock in order to fulfil normal customer orders. Then sure as eggs is eggs, 6 weeks later in swoops Amazon with a big return of the stock and you have too MUCH stock for anticipated sales (which then costs publishers to warehouse). Popping a book into KEP helps publishers mitigate this.

As a publisher, there is no way of knowing if an Amazon customer will receive a KEP printed copy or a copy that was printed by the publisher. At present, I don't think Amazon has a way of flagging either, and of course, it's not in their interest to, plus they have a model which relies on making customer returning products challenging.

The only way you as a customer can mitigate this, is not to buy from Amazon. Essentially, bad quality paper can be the price you pay for the convenience and price discount of ordering from Amazon. If you want to buy online without this issue is to buy from individual websites for your local bookshop or bookshop.org (saying that, I believe they are supplied by Gardners who also use POD technology for some books but that's a whole other kettle of fish)

Hope that helps?

OchreSnail · 08/03/2026 19:11

They could be fake or they could be Amazon print on demand. I've made some printables for adults with dementia or learning disabilities. I've just put them on Etsy as a digital download but not on Amazon yet because having read the options I'm still debating whether the paper quality will be good enough.

When I was looking for things like this for my dad I offered a couple of things that were just really badly produced on crappy materials. They were also quite uninspiring which is why I sat down and designed my own 📝

FrontlistFarce · 08/03/2026 20:23

fashionqueen0123 · 07/03/2026 22:38

If you scroll to the last picture on the images you can recognise the ones printed by them by the back page and barcodes.

Unfortunately not true - product images are selected by the publisher, not Amazon. The best way to know is to check the prelims pages, and if it is a copy printed by Amazon, it will say so there.

FrontlistFarce · 08/03/2026 20:24

Talipesmum · 07/03/2026 21:20

Check the isbn number on the book you’re buying - Amazon lists them for all books. Check that against a legit source and see if it’s the same.
I’ve never had this from Amazon but I’ve not been buying much non fiction from them recently.

Alas also not true. The ISBN remains the same for the product, no matter who prints it.

FrontlistFarce · 08/03/2026 20:36

FrontlistFarce · 08/03/2026 20:23

Unfortunately not true - product images are selected by the publisher, not Amazon. The best way to know is to check the prelims pages, and if it is a copy printed by Amazon, it will say so there.

Obviously you can only check the prelims only once you receive the product... so my suggestion us not very helpful I'm afraid.

Plus, even if a publisher has uploaded prelim pages themselves, there's no guarantee you'll receive that version if a publisher has that product enrolled it in KEP.

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