Home office new pilote scheme- wtf?

[TheBlueKoala]

Am I missing something; Families of failed asylum seekers have been offered up to £40,000 to leave Britain voluntarily in a new pilot scheme.

Failed asylum seekers! I will tell my friends from the US and Europe to come on holidays and then seek asylum- that will obviously fail since their countries are not deemed "dangerous" (even though the US doesn't feel particularly safe right now) and they can then be paid to return home 10 k per family member, 4 family members max. So 40 k.

Does this sound reasonable to you?

AIBU - Ofcourse it's reasonable- you're just jealous.
AINBU- Completely bonkers- wtf are they doing?

Worked in Denmark. Fairly ignorant to imply that holiday makers would be eligible. So just a goady post then.

Well it sounds bonkers but you may be cutting off your nose to spite your face as the saying goes

Makes some sense . People coming here to improve their circumstances . Doubt anyone would leave their country to enjoy the sights or the weather .Many send money home to help their family. If they can achieve this by being helped , it may work . Alternative is a much larger drain on resources over a lifetime.

It’s a lot cheaper than the Rwanda scheme to pay £150,000 per person for Rwanda to take them

So you would live in £10 a week for months and possibly years on end?

The Rwanda scheme, even though it hadn't properly got off the ground, was having an effect on the numbers coming here.

This scheme, surely, is just going to encourage even more to come. What have they got to lose?

That said, if it's worked elsewhere then maybe worth trying.

It is batshit. Talk about creating a "pull"!

That is not asylum, though. With asylum, you are supposed to request it in the first safe country you get to.

What you are talking about is illegal immigration.

This is an absolute joke - that is an understatement.

‘Supposed to’ according to which law?

And will repeat offenders be able to make a career out of it? They have already proved people who get sent home come straight back why give incentives

It's simple ecconomics. The government know it will cost more if they appeal, so cheaper to offer them some money if they agree to leave and not go through the appeals process.

The point of the Rwanda scheme was that it would DETER people from coming to the UK.

Offering them £40,000 to leave even though they're illegally here and have been told to leave sounds like it will ATTRACT more people.

Send them home with nothing. Immediately.

They have no legal right to be here so we should just deport them.

It costs a fortune to forcibly remove people. Presumably they have done the maths and this will be cheaper.

I do think there could be a pull factor though. Chance your luck by boat and worst comes to worst you’ll be given free board and then £10k each to leave.

I read about a scheme in Ireland a bit like this. I don't know if it was implemented though.

I think it will stir up even more hate against immigrants and probably give a big boost to reform.

The World is indeed mad

Wrong

”First safe country” refers to the EUs Dublin agreement which permitted EU members to send an asylum seeker to the first country of entry in the EU

There can be many reasons why an asylum seeker intends to go to a particular country, including existing family ties or historic ties such as former empires

EU regulations also allowed for asylum seekers to be distributed across the EU instead of concentrating on the external facing EU countries

The Brexit negotiations could have included agreements to remain in schemes such as the Dublin agreement (and Europol networks etc) but it was struck off

They have a legal right to be here while their asylum claim is determined.

I wonder if there is a limit to how many times they can pop back and claim it.

Don’t come here with your actual facts and knowledge- it gets in the way of all the frothing. Spoiling it for everyone.

Sorry, I had a moment of madness

If it works and saves money then great.

But then I'm generally in favour of policies that are actually effective, rather than just the ones that sound like they pander to my own prejudice.

That would increase the problem as now they will come more to get the
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