To think it's a bit much for tax excuses to expect rescue by the Brotish Government (taxpayer).

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Hopefully it won't come to that and the airports will reopen soon, but I've already heard some murmurs about evacuation from paradise.

Agreed. Turkey, Kazakhstan?

Exactly that. We'll do it because we're British and that's what we do, but for people who left because the UK was so awful and to avoid the UK taxation system to expect it seems a bit much to me.

The large majority of immigrants may be economic migrants, in that they come here for predetermined work. Successive Conservative and Labour governments have determined that it is in the British interest for them to do so, as they are filling specified jobs and meeting stringent economic criteria.

If you are suggesting that most asylum claimants are really economic migrants, I suggest you leave that determination to the Home Office. Even in the current climate, with everyone stupidly scared of Reform, 42% of asylum claims and 4

Like Isabel Oakeshott? Righto!

That's not the same logic at all. Those people have contributed according to their means. Even benefits claimants pay some tax, VAT etc.

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Cont’d 42% of asylum claims and 46% of appeals were granted last year. (Many of the refused initial claims are to do with a lack of understanding) This dies not suggest that a vast majority of claimants* are economic migrants, especially as the UK has very high standards that must be met for a successful claim of asylum

You’ve not heard of the postcode lottery then ?
I can tell you now if I got a dodgy looking mole or the first hint of lung cancer I’d be upping sticks and moving house before I did anything else in this country.

But as the other posters have made the point for me, I don’t need to repeat the fact that poor people have contributed

Jo Malone lives in Dubai. She went there in 2021 when she was 55 for a variety of reasons, one being their tax system.

I bet she paid more to the UK Revenue before she left Britain than most of us would pay in a hundred lifetimes.

Lots of people, including the Rod Stewart plumber bloke will fall into this category.

There would have to be a very convoluted, expensive and time consuming system to evaluate who has contributed enough for free transport and who hasn't?

What next ?
No help if they came for a holiday because it was their fancy ?
Or only help to grown up but not to small children because they haven’t paid their taxes yet?

By the way some of them went there for better paid jobs and after a few years would come back to UK to buy a property so essentially their money would come back to UK eventually.

For the second time in 24 hours, I say to you:

whoooooosh

And how will you determine who left 100% solely because of the tax system?

Will there be a polygraph adjudicated by three or five experts? What if their reasoning was only 1%, should they then be brought home only 99% of the way?

I sort of thought that it was one of the very good things about being British that if you were in trouble anywhere in the world you can call someone who will try to help you out.

Let's keep this one really good thing and not let it become another victim of the enshittification of everything.

That's a brilliant idea. "Sorry mate, we can only take you as far as Swindon. You're going to have to get the bus the rest of the way."

Well you wouldn't and I have haven't suggested that you should. I'm just pointing out the incongruence between leaving the country to avoid tax and expecting the UK tax payer to step up as soon as you need them.

Hopefully some of them will see that too, although it seems unlikely.

Re. avoiding tax - yes but that area is very expensive indeed and e.g, cost of water -huge. Fresh food etc is FLOWN in - so v. expensive too. What people make up on low/no tax goes on other things like food and water.

And these are people who think Britain is so shit that they want to live somewhere that is misogynistic and supports modern slavery.
Let them be back of the queue after the tourists

OK but that's their choice, they're still not contributing to the system the expect to save them.

Which, for many, would be one of their objections to the UK tax regime.

Absolutely, I agree 100%n but those who left to avoid "their" tax being spent to support others don't seem to.

I don't think the fact that very high earners have already paid a lot of tax is at all relevant. They paid what was due at the time, and the reason an economy like the UK works (and is able to reduce overseas nationals) is that everyone pays according to their means. They've now chosen not to do that.

But you can’t definitively say who left ONLY because of tax

Which is exactly what I said in the post you've quoted?

So how would you measure and allocate then OP?
Given that means testing based on tax avoidance intention (which may vary over time/situation) isn't feasible.

There would be a sliding scale of situation prior to leaving, intention (would all people in one family have the same intention? Would a six year old with family have the same intention as the mother seeking to avoid tax and the dad who just wanted somewhere sunny to play golf), tax paid, tax avoided, time abroad, reason abroad, situation abroad.......

And people in Dubai are also economic migrants chancing their luck. Except they are mostly white, and can rely on a government they slagged off mightily- to rescue them when things go wrong.

I haven't once said we shouldn't do it, or that we'd measure anything. I'm questioning the attitudes is all.

I'd assume that people stuck on holiday will be first to be evacuated. People residing their do at least have a home there.