Meant to be moving to Dubai in 4 weeks

[Medesres]

We've been planning a move to Dubai for a while now. Dh's work has an office out there and it seemed like great opportunity to live abroad and experience sth different. I've got a couple of friends out there already too who love the lifestyle.

Watching the news for the past 24 hours and I'm really starting to question things. I had no idea how close to Iran it was and who knows what might happen next. Part of me is hoping it will all be resolved soon but hard to believe.

My friend who already lives there has spent the night sleeping in one room with her dh and kids scared of all the missile noises.

How are you not embarrassed posting this.

Breaking local laws by being a victim of rape?

I'm allowed an opinion.

Right. And post it with your whole chest too.
Indeed.

I am sorry I didnt realise I had to go down to Year 7 level.

Even communist historians like Eric Hobsbawn understood the collapse of wages from the industrial revolution contributed to the demise of slavery. Literally the most famous and influential communist historian in the world. He spent his career proving this point.

The historian former Prime Minister of Trinidad and Tobago Eric Williams makes the same points in his book Capitalism and Slavery.

These basic points of economic history and anthropometric history.

The marxist Engels called this period the great pause.

Its absolutely crackers that there is any dispute about this. Even Communists and Marxists in victorian times through to even the 1990s agree on this point.

Wages for weavers collapsed - theres a historian called Robert Allen who showed wages fell from 30 shillings to 5 shillings between 1800 and 1830. Steam power and machines made slaves uneconomic.

Just use google.

why are people obsessed glamour and weather?

the uk is safe. The Middle East is not

Rolex rippers are a thing in London. This is not a thing in Dubai.

@Jerys It's true. I live in London and I go through 365 mobile phones a year. Can't leave the house without someone ripping my phone from my hand. It's like Mad Max out here the leafy zone 3 suburbs.

Sorry OP, but if I were you I would be seriously reconsidering. At the very least I would delay my departure for a few months to give me time to reappraise.

The whole region has been unstable for decades. I'm old, so can remember the Six Day War in 1967, and many other conflicts since. And I've read enough to know that it has a long history of instability prior to that.

It seems bizarre to me that people ever thought that any ME state was a good place to go for a holiday.

Are you about to move to the Middle East? Because if not, you can afford to remain ignorant. That anyone considers moving their family to a country when they don´t even know who that country´s neighbours are is mind boggling and deserving of mockery. We are talking the Middle East, not Andorra.

They massively changed the laws and the system to remove the sex outside of marriage "crime". That was wrong when it was there and they changed it. Where would you feel safer walking the streets alone at 2am? The UK or Dubai?

Apply some critical thinking to this. Seriously.
Upthread you claimed that there was no security at all in the Gold Souk and yet it was crime free.
That's not true.
There is a lot of security and surveillance (understandable).
Just reflect.

The UK

I don´t own a Rolex, but I do object to modern slavery, others don´t, I guess.

They arrested a guy for this in 2024

Well currently I feel much safer sitting here in London due to not having bombs lobbed at my city by a hostile nation. But more widely I have lived in London for 25 years and have no issue walking around it on my own at night.

Genuinely OP WHY do you want to live in a manufactured city in the dessert adjacent to several war zones? It boggles the mind. This ‘lifestyle’ is curated to entice people to move somewhere actually very unpleasant on a lot of levels. So hot much of the year needs to be spent in air conditioned rooms…human rights violations all over the place…really harsh laws. I’d rethink.

A couple of weeks?

You think this is all going to be over and hunky-dory in a couple of weeks?

They changed the law now that sex outside of marriage is not illegal. Both parties just need to be 18. What happened in the past was horrific and wrong, but they changed it.

All I've seen was that British female YouTuber get told off in a ball for just wearing a bikini and had to cover up.

I have an old school friend who lives in Doha because of husbands work, and has for probably 10 years now.
She said the first 24 hours were scary. They saw rocket trails overhead. But says on the ground things are calming down, and they've felt comfortable enough to start going out and about with the kids again. They have two kids, who are about 9 and 7. Although they were both born in the UK, they've lived in the middle east all their lives basically, and know nothing else. The parents don't want to uproot their whole lives unless they really, really have to.

I was taught about the Raj, slavery etc at school in the 1960s. My grandchildren seem to have learned about slavery and colonialisation more recently. Was there a gap in the middle or were some people not paying attention?

You walk around with your phone in London it'll be snatched. If you have a nice watch, a gang with stab you for it.

What utter rubbish. I've never had my phone snatched, in London or anywhere else, and I've happily walked around London wearing my late uncle's vintage Rolex that was worth well into 5 figures.

I believe so - during my school years we were never taught this.

I’m 36 and I was, in a rough comp in the NE, so I think I probably bridge that gap.

More likely some people weren’t paying attention.