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FIL incredibly rude - do I stop seeing him?

63 replies

GemJam86 · 26/02/2026 20:29

DH and I both had hard upbringings. My late dad had health and money troubles, and DH was estranged from his dad for 5 years as a child.

In a way, it’s been useful that we’ve been able to understand each other’s complex histories. We’ve been together 8 years, and now have two young kids, and we’ve managed to carve out a new normal with a well functioning family life, and our senses of humour intact (just about).

We live near my mum, who has some mental health challenges but loves us and the kids and helps where she’s able.

We visit his dad about once every 6 months. And when we do, at best he almost completely ignores me (I don’t think he’s asked me a single question since I met him). But often he’ll say something I can only assume is intended to be inflammatory (for example that he’s ’spending the inheritance’ on first class flights to his holidays).

He seems obsessed with bragging about money. And he’ll often mock us for flying economy on our one holiday a year. It wouldn’t grate as much if he’d been more forthcoming on the rare occasion we’ve asked for help, for example a contribution towards the wedding. He was reluctant and left anything substantive to my mum who’s much less well off.

Warmth and friendliness are far more important to me than money. But those are hard to come by. I’ve tried hard over the years and still try to find things to ask him that he’ll want to talk about (usually his latest holiday). But I have to say I’m struggling. On occasion, he’s been incredibly rude to me (he once threw a menu across the table at a restaurant I chose because he didn’t like it - he apologised after his partner made him but it stuck with me). And I find it hard that he’s never seemed curious about me, my family, my work… anything.

DH says I shouldn’t take it personally because he’s like this with everyone, even him. Which is broadly true. He says having a relationship however flawed is better than not having one. And I don’t want to interfere with that.

But he doesn’t even engage the kids when he sees them - he says hello but then puts on the TV almost immediately when he’s with them.

I want them to have a relationship with him as their only GF. But it feels so masochistic visiting when it makes me feel horrendous every time.

I’m wondering if I should just stop going. DH has half-suggested this, as he says he’s always on tenterhooks that I’ll be offended by something his dad says. But then I think maybe I should swallow my pride and show up. It’s really hard to know.

OP posts:
ChikinLikin · 27/02/2026 18:57

FuckingShitShow · 26/02/2026 20:31

Nah, stop going. DH goes with the kids.

Agree.

lottiegarbanzo · 27/02/2026 19:01

Stop going sounds like the best choice all round

PrizedPickledPopcorn · 27/02/2026 19:04

I would go, support your DH and kids with this difficult relationship. Model how to behave around a petulant man. Ultimately his good opinion doesn’t matter, so why are you getting upset?

I am very blessed that my DC and DH work with me to accommodate my difficult DM, who doesn’t deserve us! She comes act Christmas and between us we can all have a good time. They will take her out for an hour, help her with her tech, talk (or rather listen) so I can get on with organising the food etc. As a team effort, it’s really manageable.

Everything is much easier when you don’t expect anything, don’t take things personally, and just manage the situation calmly. He is a teachable moment. Use him!

editing to add, my adult DC value the people skills they learned from the situation. It stands them in good stead in tricky work situations. No one winds them up. 🤣

crazeekat · 27/02/2026 19:05

Stop. Life’s too short to be this bothered by a man who doesn’t give a shit about you. Not ur problem, let it go. When and if he ever asks about ur do can explain.

hearts1989g · 27/02/2026 19:16

I wouldn’t bother anymore. If your partner wants to bring the kids, fine that’s on him. No point in wasting your precious time.

my FIL isn’t rude but similarly has never one shown any curiosity in me, my family, my life. I try but my god it is hard work. He is however a polite generous and nice man.

Marieb19 · 27/02/2026 19:29

Stop going. Why on earth do you want to expose your children to this vile man. He does not deserve to be in your lives.

Wooky073 · 27/02/2026 21:09

Its who he is. Its not personal. Some folk are like that for whatever reason. The other aspect is that he may be in mental decline or have other health issues that are affecting him. Either way you are having too high expectations of your and your kids relationship with him. He isnt going to change or become lovely or interested in you or the kids - he is just like that. So you are right to just accept it for what it is - but that doesnt mean that you need to put up with the behaviour. As you say lay your boundary stop visiting with the kids. DH can visit on his own. If he then wonders why you arent going and asks to do something with the kids maybe arrange something as and when he asks. But otherwise keep a wide berth. Maybe keep the visits to once a year and only if he wants them and keep it to minimal contact - best for your sanity and so as not to impact too much on the kids.

OmgThatsAHusky · 27/02/2026 22:26

Ah, I’ve got one like this in my life, OP… charming, aren’t they? 😬

He's a rude, nosy miserable old sod who I’d be happy to never clap eyes on again, but I do try and be a bit forgiving, due to his age (90+) and the fact that the “MIL “ is so lovely but has sadly got dementia.

There was a big birthday last year, and we were told (rudely and actually shouted at) to cancel our weekend plans as we “must” attend this family party. We had made plans to see them both during the daytime with cake, presents etc, but that wasn’t good enough.

I said nope, not being ordered around at my age, by someone I’m not related to as DP is not DH… and I was staying at home.

Omg! He could not understand that someone dared to say NO to him!

Since then he barely looks at me if we visit, and I have to start the conversations or he won’t speak to me!

I can’t be arsed with his silliness, so I just go on certain days, but only if it suits me. It drives him daft that he can’t control me the way he controls his son (DP)

In our many years together, he has been the only reason for any arguments we’ve ever had. His manipulation and over-dramatic lies make me mad.

My lovely soft DP deserves better.

PorridgeEater · 28/02/2026 00:15

"But often he’ll say something I can only assume is intended to be inflammatory (for example that he’s ’spending the inheritance’ on first class flights to his holidays).

I wouldn't take this as inflammatory - he's saying/maybe joking he wants to spend his money as he likes, which I suppose he's allowed to do. But if you don't get on I would not bother visiting him (it does not sound as though he'd mind!).

Nkgp · 28/02/2026 00:47

FuckingShitShow · 26/02/2026 20:31

Nah, stop going. DH goes with the kids.

Why with the kids? The fil doesn’t interact with them.

DH should go alone imo

SemiRetiredLoveGoddeess · 28/02/2026 03:06

Sounds like a really sad old man. Who still thinks he cqn be rude and his iwn way all the time. Doubt if he will ever change.

Stop going to see him. He has nothing to offer you or your children

InterestedDad37 · 28/02/2026 04:44

Stop going. Don't attempt to accommodate or normalise his shitty behaviour, just for the sake of having a GF.
Better the kids have no GF than one who's just an arsehole. Discourage husband from taking the kids. In the unlikely event that GF asks why you/they no longer go, say simply "it's because of your behaviour". Make no pretence about it.

MrsJeanLuc · 28/02/2026 08:08

I voted YANBU because you can't help feeling the way you feel about your unpleasant FIL.

BUT ...

I do think YABU to take it all so personally. Can't you just "grey rock" him?

Your DH needs your support to navigate this relationship which he clearly finds difficult, and instead you are making him worry about your feelings. I'm sorry, but I think that is selfish of you.

So, if it upsets you to be near FIL then you should stop going. As to the children, let them decide for themselves if they want to go or not.

GoldenCupsatHarvestTime · 28/02/2026 08:10

You don’t want to go, your DH doesn’t want you to go and FIL doesn’t care if you go or not. So stop going.

You’re expecting him to be and behave as someone he isn’t.

GoldenCupsatHarvestTime · 28/02/2026 08:11

Also kids really aren’t that affected by not having a grandfather. Both of mine died when I was very young and it hasn’t had much impact on my life honestly. Grandparents are a bonus not a really vital component like mum and dad.

Righttherights · 28/02/2026 08:28

disturbia · 27/02/2026 18:53

Don't put yourself through that every time he is not going to change just don't visit him taje the kids somewhere enjoyable

Exactly this. Don’t put yourself through it. Sounds like an arsehole.

ShodAndShadySenators · 28/02/2026 08:37

I wouldn't go and I wouldn't encourage our kids or my DH to go either. Why should they? What is anyone getting from their relationship with this man, aside from occasional grief? He doesn't bring any benefits; it's not like he has the odd awkward moment of unpleasantness amongst general lovely behaviour, he sounds fairly awful most of the time. I just wouldn't put myself or my children through that (of course it's up to DH if he wants to nonetheless).

I only had one grandparent, my lovely gran. I would have preferred that to having more who behaved like arses. Kids don't need that, unless you want to train them up on how we deal with/ignore crappy people, and even then...

thecomedyofterrors · 28/02/2026 08:39

DH should go alone. I wouldn’t expose the children to this behaviour.

outerspacepotato · 28/02/2026 08:45

When you asked him for money for your wedding, he probably thought you were all about the money. So that's stuck with him and he doesn't care for you and he lets you know it.

That said, he's rude and abusive so stop seeing him.

RicketySplit · 28/02/2026 08:49

My big question is: why are you the ones doing all the running and making all the effort?

If he has the time, energy, health and money to go on multiple holidays, then why are you the ones travelling to see him and not vice versa?

Let him put the effort in if he wants to see you.

Berlinlover · 28/02/2026 08:55

SoSadSoSadSoSad · 26/02/2026 20:38

Op never said she wanted his money.

OP has stated that she asked him for a contribution to her wedding.

YourOliveBalonz · 28/02/2026 09:00

YANBU to reduce contact with someone who is rude to you, but YABU to conflate this with financial matters. Despite what you have said about money not being as important as other things, it forms most of your post.

I bristled a bit at your wording around him leaving the major costs of your wedding to your mother. If you asked and let your less-well-off mother to pay that was your arrangement, HE left the costs to the couple getting married which is a standard expectation I would say.

nomas · 28/02/2026 09:08

GemJam86 · 26/02/2026 20:43

Haha well I think truth is he would be sad if I stopped. But maybe I should take it at face value.

Sorry if this is too blunt but:

  • your FIL doesn’t want you there
  • your DH doesn’t want you there
  • you don’t want to be there

So why on Earth are you still going there?

Send DH with the kids and if the kids don’t want to go, keep them with you.

Snakebite61 · 28/02/2026 13:49

GemJam86 · 26/02/2026 20:29

DH and I both had hard upbringings. My late dad had health and money troubles, and DH was estranged from his dad for 5 years as a child.

In a way, it’s been useful that we’ve been able to understand each other’s complex histories. We’ve been together 8 years, and now have two young kids, and we’ve managed to carve out a new normal with a well functioning family life, and our senses of humour intact (just about).

We live near my mum, who has some mental health challenges but loves us and the kids and helps where she’s able.

We visit his dad about once every 6 months. And when we do, at best he almost completely ignores me (I don’t think he’s asked me a single question since I met him). But often he’ll say something I can only assume is intended to be inflammatory (for example that he’s ’spending the inheritance’ on first class flights to his holidays).

He seems obsessed with bragging about money. And he’ll often mock us for flying economy on our one holiday a year. It wouldn’t grate as much if he’d been more forthcoming on the rare occasion we’ve asked for help, for example a contribution towards the wedding. He was reluctant and left anything substantive to my mum who’s much less well off.

Warmth and friendliness are far more important to me than money. But those are hard to come by. I’ve tried hard over the years and still try to find things to ask him that he’ll want to talk about (usually his latest holiday). But I have to say I’m struggling. On occasion, he’s been incredibly rude to me (he once threw a menu across the table at a restaurant I chose because he didn’t like it - he apologised after his partner made him but it stuck with me). And I find it hard that he’s never seemed curious about me, my family, my work… anything.

DH says I shouldn’t take it personally because he’s like this with everyone, even him. Which is broadly true. He says having a relationship however flawed is better than not having one. And I don’t want to interfere with that.

But he doesn’t even engage the kids when he sees them - he says hello but then puts on the TV almost immediately when he’s with them.

I want them to have a relationship with him as their only GF. But it feels so masochistic visiting when it makes me feel horrendous every time.

I’m wondering if I should just stop going. DH has half-suggested this, as he says he’s always on tenterhooks that I’ll be offended by something his dad says. But then I think maybe I should swallow my pride and show up. It’s really hard to know.

Let DH go alone. I wouldn't let my kids near all that negativity.

PeppyAmberHedgehog · 28/02/2026 13:54

If you must go, drop off and pick up your DH and go in for two minutes.