To want to tell posters who say "I asked ChatGPT for you OP"......

[RudePie]

To fuck right off.

I've seen it on numerous threads today.

If I start a thread, or reply to someone I want to hear from real humans.

If I wanted to ask ChatGPT I don't then I would do that.

Maybe anyone who replies with "I asked ChatGPT for you and they said....." could have an instant ban and/or a fine.

Hegseth has set a deadline of tonight for Anthropic to hand over the raw version of its AI for use by the Pentagon, without the safety guardrails coded into commercial versions which might prevent the AI models from going nuclear.

And Hegseth is refusing to agree to Anthropic's conditions that (a) their AI isn't used for mass surveillance of US civilians, and (b) it's not used for lethal attacks without human oversight.

From your link:
By setting a Friday night deadline, Mr Hegseth is not only attempting to force Anthropic's hand, but also do so without US Congress having a say in the move.

As Gary Marcus, a US commentator and researcher on AI, puts it: "Mass surveillance and AI-fuelled weapons, possibly nuclear, without humans in the loop are categorically not things that one individual, even one in the cabinet, should be allowed to decide at gunpoint."

Bloody terrifying isn't it?

Not to put too fine a point on it.

And in a timely manner, I've just watched the first episode of AI Confidential with Hannah Fry.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episodes/m002q76b/ai-confidential-with-hannah-fry

I am gobsmacked.

I do remember the teenager who broke into Windsor Castle grounds with a crossbow to try to murder the late Queen, but I must have completely missed the follow-up of his trial.

He was encouraged to do it by his AI "girlfriend".

He knew the "girlfriend" was AI – he'd wittingly created it as a companion. And then of course it did what AI does and supported and validated him in everything he said. "AI sycophancy" is apparently an actual term now. As is "AI psychopathy".

Totally agree but I challenged a poster doing this recently - as much for the fact the thousands of word plus answer took so much effort to scroll through on the app, as for the utter bilge that was produced - and was told I was being unreasonable and mean, so 🤷‍♀️

Completely agree OP.

Anthropic didn't blink, and Sam Altman of OpenAI has publicly supported them.

Altman: "this is no longer just an issue between Anthropic and the [Department of War] DoW; this is an issue for the whole industry and it is important to clarify our stance."

Trump orders government to stop using Anthropic in battle over AI use
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cn48jj3y8ezo

TEARING MY HAIR OUR GRRRRRRR FFS.

I have a perfectly good thread going on, a nich subject, and someone has DECIDED AI IS THE WAY... FFS.

Now the thread is just a wall of text, none of it really relevant but get this -

I mentioned that the AI posted had an error. That someone I mentioned used a gish gallop debate method so was not sincere ... blah blah...

The poster came back with AI about if this person was a gish galloper..... WITH A MASSIVE BLOCK OF A GISH GALLOP POST.

AI does not understand irony. And really, it has no place in human debate.

Rant over :-)

Just to add, I am not against all AI. I watched a forensics programme last night, and the obvious benefits of using AI when trawling through hours and hours of CCTV were apparent, but as @RedTagAlan points out above, it is not appropriate when just blithely copied and pasted into discussion threads on MN.

slinks away to google Gish Gallop

It’s so irritating - no AI bilge on MN please….

Sorry. I did think I should say what gish gallop is in my post, but I reasoned against it :-)

But now you have googled it, I expect you see exactly what I mean.

I like to fact check data or info presented in a discussion/debate. And AI is just a gish galloping machine. And it makes many mistakes.

I’d never heard of gish galloping - I like the phrase.

Now you know it you will see it everywhere :-)

It's often a tactic to hide dishonesty. And people often use it without knowing they are. Just throw loads of snippets of information that it leaves your opponent with no idea where to start their reply. Hide the dishonest bits inside.

Politicians use it a lot.

@RedTagAlan

I think I might feel a new user name coming on but I might need to ask ChatGPT if that's OK

I’ve just posted similar on another thread.

I am largely pro AI as a helpful productivity tool, but if I wanted to know what ChatGPT would say about a scenario, I’d ask it, not come onto Mumsnet hoping someone has saved me a job…

It would be an interesting experiment to set up a post on a popular thread, and then to compare the answers there ( presuming most will be real human responses) with responses from AI companies’l which have been asked the same question.

Or would it pick up the mumsnet post and mine the mumsnet responses?.

I agree. ALSO, ChatGPT is sometimes wrong! 😱

but I might need to ask ChatGPT if that's OK

I think it's very important that you do! 😂