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John Davidson shouting the N word during the BAFTAS

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Crawse · 23/02/2026 10:02

John Davidson has Tourettes and is a campaigner for the condition. Whist Michale B Jordan and Delroy Lindo were presenting he shouted out the racial slur. It’s extremely uncomfortable to watch. I feel terrible for the two presenters. I’m really conflicted on this one.

What are your thoughts?

No one should be subjected to abuse. That is my bottom line. Maybe the fact I was called P*** (I’m half Indian) growing up has influenced my views. I obviously recognise Tourette’s is involuntary.

https://edition.cnn.com/2026/02/22/entertainment/baftas-2026-tourettes-racist-slur

British acting awards interrupted by racist slur from man with Tourette Syndrome | CNN

At Sunday night’s BAFTA ceremony in London, a man yelled a racist slur as two of the world’s most celebrated Black actors, Michael B. Jordan and Delroy Lindo, presented an award on stage.

https://edition.cnn.com/2026/02/22/entertainment/baftas-2026-tourettes-racist-slur

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Dweetfidilove · 23/02/2026 13:19

itsthetea · 23/02/2026 13:08

I will repeat

it was not abuse

abuse is a deliberate action
this was not a deliberate action

it is pathetic going on about implied racism by expressing hate towards disabled people which is exactly what I am seeing - that he should be excluded , that he should grovel apologies - absolutely hate filled

no one’s saying it’s not hurtful , I am saying you should be able to recognise the disability

What is pathetic is your limited range.

I am quite capable of recognising disability AND impact over intent.

CharlotteRumpling · 23/02/2026 13:19

Bollihobs · 23/02/2026 13:18

@CharlotteRumpling

"I don't think we need to embrace disability to this extent."

You're not serious?? Really?? 🙄

If you are genuine, and not a troll, I am the happiest I have ever been to disagree with someone.

Have you got what i said? I am serious that the broadcast should have been edited. I don;t think JD should have been excluded.

And lots of people agree with me. I am not a troll. You can search my name,

GreatAuntytobe · 23/02/2026 13:20

{mention:loislovesstewie}@loislovesstewieIf it was to the extent that they could seriously verbally or physically abuse other guests, then I would exclude them from the wedding. If I was so desperate for my child/relative to attend the wedding, then I would make sure it was a wedding attended by close family only, who would, no doubt, understand and be used to my child's condition. My BIL has Schizophrenia and can display violent, erratic behaviour. We took the decision not to invite him to our wedding for his own sake and that of the other guests.

manateeplushie · 23/02/2026 13:20

My partner is also half-Indian and has been called the p-word his entire life. He's also seen the film and loved it. Given the choice between being called the slur again or being forced to shout it continually to a complete stranger on the world's stage in front of cameras and have his reputation dragged through the mud, he knows what he'd pick. That's just his take.

I feel terrible for all 3 men who were put in a difficult situation. Compassion is an endless resource, we don't need reserve it for one party.

loislovesstewie · 23/02/2026 13:21

Forgetnotyet · 23/02/2026 12:52

The lack of empathy on here towards the Black men who were called “n*ggers” is chilling.

‘Verbal abuse’ is CALLED ‘abuse’ for good reason.

The n-word ISN’T ever just a word. It is loaded with dehumanisation and degradation.

That word is traumatic and humiliating for Black people to hear from the mouths of white people (although I’m sure there will be plenty of replies on here from people claiming that they’re Black and they don’t mind 🙄 👀)

That’s why it’s rare to even see it printed anywhere these days, even in publications that spell ‘cunt’ and ‘fuck’ out in full.

It’s a reminder of violence and humiliation, of racial hierarchy and discrimination.

It must have been shocking and painful for Michael B Jordan and Delroy Lindo to be reminded that no matter how successful they are, they can still be subjected to hateful racist abuse onstage in front of their industry peers and a tv audience of millions.

It must have hurt them both like hell, especially as they had to stay on stage and keep smiling while processing what had just happened.

It blows my mind that people on here don’t seem to get that, or to care.

How do you feel about black men calling other black men the 'n' word?

Plinkgear · 23/02/2026 13:22

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Alpacay · 23/02/2026 13:22

I can see both sides. The presenters should not be subjected to abusive language (particularly the term that was used). That said, it was an involuntary manifestation of a disability and unless we’re going to say all people with disability have to stay away from public events, I don’t see how it can be addressed.

ChequerToRed · 23/02/2026 13:23

Wow, there’s a lot of education on Tourette’s still needed by the looks of it.

My parents have a friend with it, he mutters ‘wanker’, just that, nothing else. Obviously this has caused him all sorts of issues throughout his life and he’s deliberately sought out a job that has minimal content with people for this reason, though he still can’t avoid things like supermarket queues where his tic can get peoples dander up. Dad says he’s a lovely guy and really feels for him.
It’s a shitty condition because it forces some of those who have it to involuntarily smash the social niceties that keep everyday interactions amicable. It’s these very social niceties that can cause some to have ‘offensive’ tics, because there’s a link between the emotional and social charge they carry and the compulsion to say them. It’s not what they’re thinking, it’s actually the opposite.
That’s why there no point in getting hurt about what JD said, beacuse it’s not what he’s thinking. There’s no intent behind it. I suspect that’s why the BBC didn’t cut it but did cut an overt political statement. One carries absolutely no intent and is a manifestation of a man’s neurological disability, a man who is a highly regarded campaigner and there to celebrate award nominations for a film that is part of his dedicated campaigning, and who other attendees were informed could tic during the event. The other is an intentional political statement tagged on to a speech for an award given for something completely unrelated just because the speaker had a platform.
They are not the same at all, and even insisting there’s a connection is crass to say the least.

CharlotteRumpling · 23/02/2026 13:23

Alpacay · 23/02/2026 13:22

I can see both sides. The presenters should not be subjected to abusive language (particularly the term that was used). That said, it was an involuntary manifestation of a disability and unless we’re going to say all people with disability have to stay away from public events, I don’t see how it can be addressed.

By editing, as the BBC has done?

I think many posters are missing this and are saying that disabled people should not be excluded. I agree they shouldn't be, but broadcasts can be edited.

LordofMisrule1 · 23/02/2026 13:23

NemesisInferior · 23/02/2026 13:03

So we are just back to locking people away who we don't like or understand then. Lovely.

Yes, not attending a publicly televised awards ceremony when you have a history of yelling racist epithets at black people is exactly the same situation as locking someone with a disability away from everyone always.

Come on. Those other attendees had the right to be able to do their job without being subjected publicly to being called n*ggers. If John decided to sit and watch the whole thing knowing full well he might do what he did, instead of coming in for his own segment, then he is placing his own desires over the wellbeing and rights of others.

I'm honestly shocked at the people on here defending it. Seeing how happily people will handwave away the rights and wellbeing of people who are black in order to virtue signal how anti-ableist they are is telling.

If my disability causes me to randomly walk up to people and start urinating all over them it's my responsibility to ensure I'm not in a position to do that. Jesus christ.

CharlotteRumpling · 23/02/2026 13:24

ChequerToRed · 23/02/2026 13:23

Wow, there’s a lot of education on Tourette’s still needed by the looks of it.

My parents have a friend with it, he mutters ‘wanker’, just that, nothing else. Obviously this has caused him all sorts of issues throughout his life and he’s deliberately sought out a job that has minimal content with people for this reason, though he still can’t avoid things like supermarket queues where his tic can get peoples dander up. Dad says he’s a lovely guy and really feels for him.
It’s a shitty condition because it forces some of those who have it to involuntarily smash the social niceties that keep everyday interactions amicable. It’s these very social niceties that can cause some to have ‘offensive’ tics, because there’s a link between the emotional and social charge they carry and the compulsion to say them. It’s not what they’re thinking, it’s actually the opposite.
That’s why there no point in getting hurt about what JD said, beacuse it’s not what he’s thinking. There’s no intent behind it. I suspect that’s why the BBC didn’t cut it but did cut an overt political statement. One carries absolutely no intent and is a manifestation of a man’s neurological disability, a man who is a highly regarded campaigner and there to celebrate award nominations for a film that is part of his dedicated campaigning, and who other attendees were informed could tic during the event. The other is an intentional political statement tagged on to a speech for an award given for something completely unrelated just because the speaker had a platform.
They are not the same at all, and even insisting there’s a connection is crass to say the least.

They have cut it.

LadyTable · 23/02/2026 13:25

Ablondiebutagoody · 23/02/2026 13:19

This was shocking. The guy should not have been in the audience if he was likely to abuse others.

And you don't think banning him from the audience would've made a complete nonsense of the film the BAFTA award was for?

The idea of the film was to EDUCATE others on Tourette's.

Which is something that's completely lost on so many posters on this thread.

Pollyanna87 · 23/02/2026 13:26

A sincere question to everyone defending Davidson here: how far would you take it? If someone with Tourette’s was shouting to random women in the street that he was going to rape them, would you think he should stay home? Sincere question.

LordofMisrule1 · 23/02/2026 13:26

OtterlyAstounding · 23/02/2026 13:06

That's a bit hyperbolic.

Hyperbole is required when it's difficult to defend your position from a place of calm rationality. It's called straw manning.

It's difficult to defend somebody who knows that they are likely to yell racist epithets at people choosing to sit in a position where they might abuse someone publicly. Instead of, you know, waiting outside or in another area until their segment occurs.

But if you can pretend that anyone claiming otherwise is advocating for locking disabled people away, that's much easier to refute.

I say this as a disabled person.

PrizedPickledPopcorn · 23/02/2026 13:26

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I think all parties in this are exhausted. I wonder whether this could be framed as ‘these words are not acceptable, but on this occasion only, for three hours, we ask it be ignored to allow John to participate’.

I was reminded a while ago (in a discussion about prams v wheelchairs on the bus) that wheelchair users never get a day off. It’s not a difficult 3 years while your baby needs a pram, it’s always and forever. The same is true of Tourette’s and of those traumatised by racism. It’s always there. Can we make spaces for all people to have a chance to fully participate.

Alpacajigsaw · 23/02/2026 13:27

LadyTable · 23/02/2026 12:52

Which would be excluding them because they have a disability known as Tourette's.

So, excluding them because they are disabled.

This should be really really easy for most people to understand.

there is a difference between excluding someone because they are disabled, and excluding someone because of something that arises in consequence of that disability.

For example. If John applied for work as a funeral director. It would be illegal to say no we are not giving you that job because you have Tourette’s.

However. It may be lawful to say we can’t give you that job because of your propensity to have offensive outbursts in consequence of the tics arising from your Tourette’s. And we need to be able to provide our services in a sensitive way at all times, and there’s no other way than by not giving you the job we can do that.

So there is a difference and it’s not always straightforward. Clearly I know there’s a difference between a social occasion and work.

Dweetfidilove · 23/02/2026 13:28

I am not what anyone would call a progressive and I do not come online to perform outrage anymore than I shit over the men, the working class or disabled ✌🏾.

Forgetnotyet · 23/02/2026 13:28

LordofMisrule1 · 23/02/2026 13:23

Yes, not attending a publicly televised awards ceremony when you have a history of yelling racist epithets at black people is exactly the same situation as locking someone with a disability away from everyone always.

Come on. Those other attendees had the right to be able to do their job without being subjected publicly to being called n*ggers. If John decided to sit and watch the whole thing knowing full well he might do what he did, instead of coming in for his own segment, then he is placing his own desires over the wellbeing and rights of others.

I'm honestly shocked at the people on here defending it. Seeing how happily people will handwave away the rights and wellbeing of people who are black in order to virtue signal how anti-ableist they are is telling.

If my disability causes me to randomly walk up to people and start urinating all over them it's my responsibility to ensure I'm not in a position to do that. Jesus christ.

I'm honestly shocked at the people on here defending it. Seeing how happily people will handwave away the rights and wellbeing of people who are black in order to virtue signal how anti-ableist they are is telling.

Suspect it would have been a different story had he shouted something like “I want to lick your p*ssy” at a female presenter.

DestinedToBeOutlived · 23/02/2026 13:28

LordofMisrule1 · 23/02/2026 13:23

Yes, not attending a publicly televised awards ceremony when you have a history of yelling racist epithets at black people is exactly the same situation as locking someone with a disability away from everyone always.

Come on. Those other attendees had the right to be able to do their job without being subjected publicly to being called n*ggers. If John decided to sit and watch the whole thing knowing full well he might do what he did, instead of coming in for his own segment, then he is placing his own desires over the wellbeing and rights of others.

I'm honestly shocked at the people on here defending it. Seeing how happily people will handwave away the rights and wellbeing of people who are black in order to virtue signal how anti-ableist they are is telling.

If my disability causes me to randomly walk up to people and start urinating all over them it's my responsibility to ensure I'm not in a position to do that. Jesus christ.

He has a history of yelling all sorts of things at all sorts of people.

So the answer would obviously be to lock him up lest he offend someone with his disability.

citronella · 23/02/2026 13:28

No. I am mixed race and have experienced racial slurs and discrimination direct and indirectly. At no level would I be offended by words that are tics from someone with Tourettes. And as someone said this event was featuring a film specifically about Tourettes and the perdon himself! Come on. If this is the reaction then John Davidson will have gone home with his head in his hands at the hopelessness of the condition and the chance of ever being understood. Made the award seem pointless!!

PrizedPickledPopcorn · 23/02/2026 13:30

Pollyanna87 · 23/02/2026 13:26

A sincere question to everyone defending Davidson here: how far would you take it? If someone with Tourette’s was shouting to random women in the street that he was going to rape them, would you think he should stay home? Sincere question.

The people who work with or are related to Tourette’s sufferers do. When you know the person shouting has Tourette’s, I think you let it go. I mean, if I worked with people with Tourette’s, I’d get a lot of ‘fatso’ comments I think. My grandfather certainly said it a lot. Things generally lose their power when you understand the impulse behind it.

clickthat · 23/02/2026 13:32

Didn’t poor John get actually physically abused multiple times during his life because of his involuntary condition?
This thread is really showing the ignorant idiots up!

LadyTable · 23/02/2026 13:32

Pollyanna87 · 23/02/2026 13:26

A sincere question to everyone defending Davidson here: how far would you take it? If someone with Tourette’s was shouting to random women in the street that he was going to rape them, would you think he should stay home? Sincere question.

No I don't think he should stay home. I'm mean for what, the rest of his life??

I would expect anyone scared by it and unaware that he was ticcing, to call the police.

And I would expect the police to show compassion and gently guide him home.

We're long past the days of locking people up when they have disabilities.

Glitching · 23/02/2026 13:32

I have a disability, not Tourette's but something that can have a negative impact on those around me. It is not my fault and I don't think anyone understands how awful it is to live with it day in day out but I also understand that it is not other people's fault either and as such I always explain and apologise if my disability causes an issue, and take action to try and minimise the impact on others. I do this to protect people around me, but also myself as I feel guilty and embarrassed afterwards. I don't know anything about Tourette's or about John Davidson but in my opinion BBC should have cut the slur out.

CatsCatsCatsCatsCatsCat · 23/02/2026 13:34

It’s a sad situation all round. Practically, John should have been seated out of earshot to the stage, I think.

I just wish I could give all three of them a hug.

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