Am I complicit

[Mumto2at]

if I'm aware that someone potentially might be leaving the country with her children (unsure if permanent or not) am I complicit/could charges be brought to me?

Are they not allowed to leave the country?

Need more info. i leave the country with my children all the time. So what?

Knowing someone is going abroad with their kids isn't a crime.

As long as you're not helping in any way you won't be complicit for simply being aware it may happen.

I assume you mean they are leaving the country for good.

For me it would depend on their reasons. If their partner was violent or abusive in any way at all, I wouldn't say a word about it to anyone and wouldn't feel guilty. If they were equal parents then I would tell him.

I don't think you can be taken to court for knowing about that.

Is there a court order preventing the xhildren being taken abroad?

I think it would be difficult to prove your knowledge of it, unless you were driving them to the airport

Well given your post is so vague and you admit you have no idea of the actual circumstances then of course you won't be complicit.

No you’re not a complicit unless your getting them fake passports or something silly.

Yeah.

I'm leaving the country will my children next week and now I've told you all, everyone on this thread is complicit...

Not unless you are helping to falsify documents or passports and aiding and abetting it when you know it is against the law.

No you’re not complicit for knowing that information. I guess you feel you are for not preventing them, or informing someone (their dp?).

Why do you think charges will be brought against you? Perverting the course of justice?

How do you know that?
Is there a reason why the person shouldnt leave the country (either temporarily or permenantly) with their children ?

You’re not complicit in a criminal offence but unless this is a violent or abusive ex partner who has fathered these children, you’re morally complicit in depriving him access to his children potentially forever. So I would think long and hard about whether you can live with that because men aren’t second rung parents just because they’re male

@Mumto2at this

Thank you, yeah just a moral dilemma. I was panicking tbh as I don't want anything being brought to me. A friend and her partner broke up and she just wants to go back to home to her family, she wasn't aware that this was classed as abduction if ex wasn't happy about it so she is now. Don't want to go into details in case someone she knows were to see this that's all as it's not my story to tell 🙂 just not sure how to delete this thread

FYI https://www.hcch.net/en/instruments/conventions/specialised-sections/child-abduction

I know someone this happened to and the father acted quickly and she was apprehended at the border and he now has residency and she has supervised access. I don’t know all the ins and outs as it’s a friends family member but that’s the gist.

You could help the father if you think what’s going on is wrong

If you knew a bank robbery was going to take place, a school shooting or bombing Buckingham palace - then you of course would be complicit which could result in charges.

But as this is a domestic case, then they’re not going to waste time and money on charging you.
Worst comes to worse, you’ll be questioned just like if a man abducted his kids, his close friends and family will be questioned.

Its very unfair that she wants to take her kids.
Why can’t she leave them with their dad?
At the very least she needs to discuss it with him and decide how it’s going to work.

Is he on the BC?