Area gone to shit, feel forced to move 😪

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I've lived in the same London suburb all my life. Until just a few short years ago it was a very nice area, and we thought we'd likely stay for ever, perhaps downsizing when the DC left home. We've spent a lot of time and money improving and extending our home over the years and it's perfect for us, just the way we want it, so would not wish to leave it for a few years yet.

However, the area has been going downhill at an alarming rate over the last 3 or 4 years to the point that we find we now absolutely hate it and want to get out - overcrowded, horrendous traffic, driving & road rage, unpleasant, rude people, lots of crime and antisocial behaviour. HMOs springing up all over, including one at the end of the street, most of which contain single, foreign men, not families. We're overrun with food delivery bike riders (many of whom live in the HMOS) who congregate in the high street, leering at women & young girls and spit disgusting red tobacco on the pavement. The area looks increasingly run down, fly tipping and a general lack of care. It has long been fairly multi cultural (no problem with that at all) but we're now finding that as white british people we are fast becoming a minority, and frequently encounter people who cannot speak any English. I'm sure some will accuse me of being racist but I absolutely am not, I'm just sad at what has happened to our once lovely area and, no, I'm not blaming immigration for all of it, although it's clearly a factor.

I know many areas are the same but there are plenty that are not - I only have to compare our Community Facebook page which is full of posts complaining of the above issues to that of the area we're thinking of going to which is completely different.

We've accepted we now need to move several years before we are ready but I feel so sad and angry about it. Several friends have already moved and others are considering it for the same reasons. The DC are happy for us to move as they hate it too - one at uni, the other working & considering buying their own place, not round here!

How many of these neighbourhoods exist in the UK? And what percentage are they versus the areas that are socially acceptable because only white people live in them?

I'm sure you have the answer.

But we don't need immigration for jobs. Unemployment is rising and we have plenty of NEETs to take on the the jobs

If we stop immigration and reduce UC we solve both problems.

I honestly don't think that's the case. I think most people object to migrants who have different values, not different skin colours.

It's why, for example, someone like Tommy Robinson has support from significant numbers of Sikhs and Hindus with family roots in India, but almost no support from Muslims with family roots in Pakistan

This story has been all over the news this week

https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/uk-news/labour-told-slash-dwp-benefits-33460377

White British are still the biggest % of benefits claimants though. 76.2% of all UC claimants, followed by Asian/Asian British at 10.4%.

The overall benefits spend is £334bn.

Who is going to explain to this poster what representative stats are?

That isn't what I asked.

Also, the Centre for Migration control is a dodgy as fuck one man band masquerading as a "think tank" a.k.a Robert Bates a Reform activist.

Are you pretending that the disgusting neighbourhood you live in isn't still majority british because I bet "100%" that it is just as I 100% think that you're a racist

So we have a large number of white people claiming benefits. The aim should be to tighten the benefits criteria and most definitely not bring in even more people to claim.

To be clear thus just exacerbates an already failing setup.

That's a huge and totally unsustainable benefits bill. The total taxation received per year is only a maximum of less than three times that.. meant to be spent on everything from hospitals to the police

Because someone you don't like is mentioned in the story therefore the story isn't true?

Have a look at the very high diversity in Moor Park, London Don't think the OP and others would complain about those people as neighbours.

The issue is people with no standards or morals and no work ethic destroying communities.

Here is a summary:-

Moor Park, located on the border of Northwood in Hertfordshire/London, is an affluent, leafy residential area known for its low crime rate and high-value detached homes. The population is diverse, with a significant Asian (roughly 50%) and White (approx. 41%) population. It features a high proportion of residents in managerial/professional roles, with a large 45+ age demographic.

I didn't say that. I did say that link doesn't answer the question I asked you. My comment about RB was just for info.

Anyway. You're not going to give me an answer, so no point arguing the toss any further.

I gave you the answer! You asked for a link on migration and benefits, and that was literally what the link was about?

If you didn't like that one because it mentioned someone you don't like, how about this one from this week:

mol.im/a/15550811

@FlyMeToTheSpoon

HMOs completely change the vibe of the areas they are in, and never in a positive way.

The same happened a few decades ago to many seaside resorts, where the old boarding houses were converted into bedsits and then the authorities/councils etc "relocated" problem tenants into them, i.e. newly released offenders, etc. Entire streets turned into third world shit holes virtually overnight and most such seaside resorts have never recovered. Look at Blackpool - it's not "locals" who cause all the anti social behavior - it's people who've been transported there by the authorities/councils.

Oh, bless. You didn't understand the question. Never mind.

Look at Blackpool - it's not "locals" who cause all the anti social behavior - it's people who've been transported there by the authorities/councils

This. It needs to stop!

What suburb is this? (Sorry if it’s been stated)

You've a valid experience OP and one which many of us share, but don't expect the guardian to write an opinion piece any time soon. The problem is widespread and growing. I used to think you could get away from it by moving to a quieter, nicer area but ime the shift is happening everywhere in England. Parts of Wales, such as Pembrokeshire, still have lovely well kept towns and villages, thriving high streets and a conspicuous absence of hmos. If you want to 'get out out ', I'd be considering moving further afield if you can.

Instead of moving, why don't you do something about it?

Speak to your local councillor about the rubbish and street behaviour. Start a litter picking group. Speak to businesses eg local takeaways about litter and what you'd like help dealing with. Campaign re: HMOs - local people I know had problems with too much student housing and consequent noise, litter etc and got a limit set per grid of roads. Talk to local schools. Involve the press, run your own FB page.

HMOs are a big problem where I am and have changed a few areas. They areas are within walking distance of the town centre so the town centre has completely changed. It's been such a rapid change. That's what people object to. It's unrecognisable from what the town centre was like 5 years ago.

I'm always amazed to visit family in other places who have seen none of these changes.

Can't help thinking that a certain someone just didn't like the answer lol

The mistake you're making is thinking that the poster you're replying to is engaging in good faith. They aren't. They're waiting for proof that all immigrants in the UK don't work and acting smug and condescending because you haven't provided it, even though you never made that claim and it was the PP who put those words in your mouth.

You made valid point and substantiated it with a link, leave it there or you'll be here all day.

Then look it up yourself.