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Is living on the state pension really that bad?

717 replies

cateringday · 21/02/2026 09:07

I mean, if you own your home then you’re getting around £250 a week just for bills and spends.
i have a tiny pension and DH has none. I am always worrying about this but then realised that we will have no rent or mortgage to pay.
im just wondering if it would be as awful as people make out? I hear stuff saying you need £300000 in pension pot to have a comfortable retirement, why would you need that much?

OP posts:
Thechaseison71 · 22/02/2026 12:11

Pddn · 22/02/2026 12:08

Person with cancer definitely needs the support as they are unwell

In the last 5 years I've had cervical cancer and unrelated sepsis that nearly killed me

Both parents died within 18 months of each other, stillborn GC, etc

So does this mean I can get money for it?

Pddn · 22/02/2026 12:12

Thechaseison71 · 22/02/2026 12:11

In the last 5 years I've had cervical cancer and unrelated sepsis that nearly killed me

Both parents died within 18 months of each other, stillborn GC, etc

So does this mean I can get money for it?

Did you?

Thechaseison71 · 22/02/2026 12:13

Pddn · 22/02/2026 12:12

Did you?

No. Never occured to me to ask for any. Spent a lot of time after these incidences working non stop to survive

Pddn · 22/02/2026 12:14

Fends · 22/02/2026 12:10

Not if they’ve got similar problem solving skills to you 😅

One of the reasons I told my children to work hard at school.....

Pddn · 22/02/2026 12:14

Thechaseison71 · 22/02/2026 12:13

No. Never occured to me to ask for any. Spent a lot of time after these incidences working non stop to survive

Very commendable I thought you'd be able to claim for the time you were off work sick

Thechaseison71 · 22/02/2026 12:15

Pddn · 22/02/2026 12:14

Very commendable I thought you'd be able to claim for the time you were off work sick

Self employed.

I wouldn't call in commendable, merely just getting on with stuff despite shit happening

Pddn · 22/02/2026 12:16

Thechaseison71 · 22/02/2026 12:15

Self employed.

I wouldn't call in commendable, merely just getting on with stuff despite shit happening

Edited

Very sorry for your loss btw. I thought there was sickness/health related benefits. Guess you had to keep going as you're self employed.

Pickledonion1999 · 22/02/2026 12:39

Pddn · 22/02/2026 12:16

Very sorry for your loss btw. I thought there was sickness/health related benefits. Guess you had to keep going as you're self employed.

There is Contributions based benefits or Universal credit for self employed people too sick to work as well as the disability benefits like PIP if eligible.

BambinaCucina · 22/02/2026 12:40

You also have to remember that if you own your own home, you have the maintenance and upkeep of that to think about.

Any holidays/days out that you might like to take.

Potentially increased heating if you're in the house more/feel the cold.

Thechaseison71 · 22/02/2026 12:47

Pickledonion1999 · 22/02/2026 12:39

There is Contributions based benefits or Universal credit for self employed people too sick to work as well as the disability benefits like PIP if eligible.

Not enough class 2 contributions for the cancer as was off for too long 18 months previously.

And not eligible for UC.

Cashmereclothing · 22/02/2026 12:54

If you own your home and finances become tight you can always do equity release. Afterall you can't take it with you. Especially if you have already made sacrifices for your children.

Thechaseison71 · 22/02/2026 13:01

Thechaseison71 · 22/02/2026 12:47

Not enough class 2 contributions for the cancer as was off for too long 18 months previously.

And not eligible for UC.

Not sure what any of it has to do with Anxiety though

mydogisthebest · 22/02/2026 13:50

Pepperlee · 22/02/2026 10:07

I meant that some information from a medical professional must have to be provided to claim PIP. I doubt that it's granted simply on the applicant's say so.

Yes, as I said, he went to his GP and claimed he was depressed and had anxiety so could not leave his house. No real reason for a GP to doubt what a patient is saying and it's not something the GP can see or test for is it.

As someone who has suffered genuine anxiety and panic attacks out of my home it makes me furious. I did have time off work but then went back even though it was a real struggle.

Because he gets benefits and cash in hand for working he is actually fairly well off. Eats out quite a lot and last week took his girlfriend out for Valentines and paid £160 for a meal which he boasted about to me and DH

ChefsKisser · 22/02/2026 13:54

To be honest anyone under the age of 45 needs to seriously consider that the state pension is likely to be very different/means tested/age much higher by the time we are older and act accordingly. The benefits bill financial implosion will be along at some point and myself and my husband and family are moving abroad later this year to avoid the future of the UK tbh. It looks bleak!

Pddn · 22/02/2026 14:25

mydogisthebest · 22/02/2026 13:50

Yes, as I said, he went to his GP and claimed he was depressed and had anxiety so could not leave his house. No real reason for a GP to doubt what a patient is saying and it's not something the GP can see or test for is it.

As someone who has suffered genuine anxiety and panic attacks out of my home it makes me furious. I did have time off work but then went back even though it was a real struggle.

Because he gets benefits and cash in hand for working he is actually fairly well off. Eats out quite a lot and last week took his girlfriend out for Valentines and paid £160 for a meal which he boasted about to me and DH

Report him anonymously to DWP

Thechaseison71 · 22/02/2026 14:31

mydogisthebest · 22/02/2026 13:50

Yes, as I said, he went to his GP and claimed he was depressed and had anxiety so could not leave his house. No real reason for a GP to doubt what a patient is saying and it's not something the GP can see or test for is it.

As someone who has suffered genuine anxiety and panic attacks out of my home it makes me furious. I did have time off work but then went back even though it was a real struggle.

Because he gets benefits and cash in hand for working he is actually fairly well off. Eats out quite a lot and last week took his girlfriend out for Valentines and paid £160 for a meal which he boasted about to me and DH

Laughing at this If he went to his GP and said he couldn't leave the house then id not believe him if he was the GP

mydogisthebest · 22/02/2026 14:46

Pddn · 22/02/2026 14:25

Report him anonymously to DWP

I have lost count of how many times I have reported him over the last 3 years and nothing whatsoever has happened.

mydogisthebest · 22/02/2026 14:47

Thechaseison71 · 22/02/2026 14:31

Laughing at this If he went to his GP and said he couldn't leave the house then id not believe him if he was the GP

Well exactly! He has GP appointments on a fairly regular basis and yet the GP presumably never asks how he has managed to get to the surgery when he can't leave his house.

Pddn · 22/02/2026 14:50

mydogisthebest · 22/02/2026 14:46

I have lost count of how many times I have reported him over the last 3 years and nothing whatsoever has happened.

This is very unfortunate

Jasonandtheargonauts · 22/02/2026 14:57

Pddn · 22/02/2026 09:38

There's a legal minimum employer contribution of 3%. Even if you are on NMW you can learn to budget and put some away. Don't plan to stay in NNW forever, learn some marketable skills to get a better job.

There's plenty of practical qualifications to do for those who don't even have GCSEs.

I think the state pension needs to be phased out where people get a lump equivalent to what they "paid in" via NI. Ultimately resulting in a world of personal responsibility.

You don't understand what life on NMW is like for a lot of people. For a lot, income equals expenditure and there's nothing spare, so it's not a question of learning to budget. They're already budgeting to make ends meet and there's nothing left over. Upskilling requires both the intelligence to be able to learn whatever-it-is and the money to pay for the course, which as I've just said isn't necessarily available. People can't help being born a bit thick and a lot of people are.

I'm glad the rules have changed and employers have to pay into the pension now.

To fix it all, I believe we need to look at the bigger picture.

I think it's housing that needs reform. No more sky high private rentals and people with no choice but to live in them, claiming benefits to help pay it. Anyone on NLW or below should have the opportunity to live in social housing, with it's much more affordable rents. At least then if benefits are paying it, it's a lower amount needed. Which means building more social housing. So it's not a quick fix solution and may even cost more in the short term than paying all the private rentals for all I know, but I think it needs to be done. With enough social housing there'd be far less temporary housing costs being paid out for the homeless too, they wouldn't be homeless for nearly as long and certainly not decades like happens in some areas, all the while hotel bills being paid by UC.

Debt and the ease of accessing it needs to be looked at too. The amount of debt students can run up isn't right. Sure, some is needed for living expenses and tuition fees, but they're able to run up much more than that.

Everyone else is able to run up too much as well. Some is needed, for things like when people's benefits glitch and they've nothing to live on that month etc. but there needs to be a move away from people on a low income making their lives harder by obtaining debt for treats like holidays or Christmas presents.

People on larger incomes who think it'll be fine because they can pay off the debt easily, then oops now they're redundant or divorced or bereaved and suddenly it's not so easy to make ends meet, that's a problem too.

Debt makes it unnecessarily harder for a lot of people to make ends meet, leading to further debt. So I'd like to see tighter controls on debt versus income and judgement on what the debt is for being a bigger part of the approval process. Necessary debt versus unnecessary debt, rather than just looking at people's ability to pay it off and charging higher interest rates for those with a more sketchy financial history.

There's no reason people should be putting everything on a credit card and paying it off at the end of the month. Or driving around in brand new cars on finance. If people used the money they actually had available already, there'd be no chance of finding themselves only able to make the minimum payment and accruing interest and just making a bad situation worse.

Judging people's ability to pay the rent or mortgage needs to done with common sense. It's ridiculous to deny someone a mortgage when they've been paying more than that in rent each month for the past two years. It's ridiculous to deny someone a rental because it takes two thirds of their salary, when they can prove with a budget that they can meet their living expenses and a look at their bank statements confirms they remain in the black each month and have been saving the equivalent rental amount. We need to stop expecting guarantors people just don't have. And we need to stop judging people on their credit scores (ability to pay back debt) and start judging them on their ability to stay out of debt in the first place. People with savings and who've never had debt being considered a bad prospect for mortgage/rent because they have a bad credit score (because they've never had credit) is just crazy.

LoyalMember · 22/02/2026 15:00

Speaking of pensions, I just bumped into a childhood friend outside Morrisons who's not long retired after 30 years in Police Scotland. He did various things, like myself, after leaving school and eventually joined Strathclyde Police as it was then. I can’t imagine he'll be worrying much about a state pension. It'll be like expenses compared to a Police Pension. Lucky him, eh...

Jasonandtheargonauts · 22/02/2026 15:08

Thechaseison71 · 22/02/2026 12:11

In the last 5 years I've had cervical cancer and unrelated sepsis that nearly killed me

Both parents died within 18 months of each other, stillborn GC, etc

So does this mean I can get money for it?

If you were unable to work long term due to illness you could have claimed UC. I think you'd have had to close down your business to do that. And you'd have had to be living alone not with a partner, as usually with a partner working full time (who will be expected to support you by DWP) their wages will disqualify you from claiming on grounds of low income.

Pddn · 22/02/2026 15:10

LoyalMember · 22/02/2026 15:00

Speaking of pensions, I just bumped into a childhood friend outside Morrisons who's not long retired after 30 years in Police Scotland. He did various things, like myself, after leaving school and eventually joined Strathclyde Police as it was then. I can’t imagine he'll be worrying much about a state pension. It'll be like expenses compared to a Police Pension. Lucky him, eh...

Edited

Well he worked for it and deserved it? I'd thank him for his service to the police force.

LoyalMember · 22/02/2026 15:14

Pddn · 22/02/2026 15:10

Well he worked for it and deserved it? I'd thank him for his service to the police force.

Service to the public...

Pddn · 22/02/2026 15:21

LoyalMember · 22/02/2026 15:14

Service to the public...

Yes yes better worded