To think that Prince Harry's main problem with the media now is his refusal to accept that his inner circle have probably been the ones behind leaked stories (at least in the 2000s era)

[Carla786]

It seems now that Harry's case against the Mail rests on slim foundations, and if he misled Doreen Lawrence into entering it then that's terrible. It definitely seems poorly-judged to have started it, either way.

On the other hand I feel quite sorry for him in one way : it looks increasingly like members of his circle must have been the ones leaking info in the 2000s. He fixates on hacking (which surely did happen but not in every case, and as far as we know, not provably in the DM's case) because he doesn't want to admit to himself that people he was friendly with & trusted back then may well have been the ones leaking- unethically but legally.

William didn't seem to have this as much, probably because he had more of a protective shell and a smaller, more vetted, circle. Harry seems for various reasons to have been more of an open book (and still is arguably) and this imo had attracted the wrong kind of people, often, dating back to the 2000s.

Why couldn’t (and can’t) the culprits be the Sun, NoW and Mirror and all those other news titles that Harry’s had money from? Or his personal friends, or Harry’s own drunk/stoned loose-lipped self, even his wife with the speed-deal to Backgrid? Why not his royal protection officers who sound increasingly dodgy as fuck? Why not Sarah Ferguson, for the money? Why not Eugenie? Why not Harry’s revolving door of staff? Why not the many people he’s hit over the years? Why not charity workers who saw his horrible side?

Why does it have to be between the Mail or ‘the evil stepmother’?

My money is on hacking.

Hope he takes them for millions.

I’ve been following the court hearing against ANL and the claimants’ side is right shambles.

I think the claimants expected ANL to settle. It didn’t.

Evidence isn’t looking that way which suggests it’s more likely to be a heavy legal bill coming him way, rather than millions.

When I said his 'inner circle '. I was referring to friends, not Camilla. I don't think she's been behind it. Sorry if that was unclear.

I agree with most of your suggestions. When you say
'Why not his royal protection officers who sound increasingly dodgy as fuck?' - do you mean ones from the 2000s-2010s era? Or later ones? Why do you think they are dodgy? I haven't read much on that angle.

It would be awful to be betrayed by a bodyguard but they would also be in an ideal position to do it...

It’s not as if the protection officers assigned to the royal family aren’t above being investigated for improper behaviour: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cy57ry1vne0o

Well over half of the articles relating to him in this case involve Chelsy, none scandalous- wonder if he is still bitter that her reason for leaving him related to press intrusion; thought he would be over it by now though.

Phone hacking was abbhorent and if it did happen all responsible should be held to account.

Yes, Andrew was a ‘Trade Envoy’ 2001-2011. This is when some of the most egregious behaviours took place that we know of - there will be more, spanning the family.

Their protection officers were either turning a blind eye or enjoying their position. A few officers tried to speak up but were shut down apparently.

What happened with Chelsy was obviously very painful, and unethical arguably re chasing stories. Otoh that doesn't mean the journalists involved actually broke the law.

I wonder if Harry's therapist inadvertently or intentionally encouraged this kind of rumination. It's understandable it's still painful given his perception (true or not) that every woman in his life has been unethically hounded by the media.

Are you trying to move interest away from AMW by bringing up the Duke of Sussex?

No, definitely not! I've been discussing Epstein as well on those threads. I thunk there's room to discuss both but I wouldn't want it to end up distracting from AMW...

Maybe the sad sacks who obsess over Harry should get a life