To be annoyed work posted this job in this way?

[7stripybaskets]

I’m on annual leave from work this week for half term by chance I logged onto our companies’s intranet.
There is a job advert for a job within our department that I wasn’t aware of this would be the next step up from my current role there is 8 or so of us in a similar role to mine that would probably want to go for it. I haven’t been told it was coming and it’s advertised for internal department applications only and with an opening application window of 4 days which closes today. So, obviously they had someone in mind which wasn’t me but I think that’s not good practice for half of us that are off with children this week it was a well timed way of reducing applications I suppose. I feel really demotivated I suppose.

How picky are they likely to be if your application comes in at 7? If they want you you'll get an interview if they don't they'll play the late application card

I too would get off MN, get home and complete the application form!

I don't have children and wouldn't know it was school holidays unless I googled it!

I’m in leadership and I have young children so feel totally justified in saying this.

You are being entitled - it’s not our job to monitor your leave and ensure you are up to date.
You are being lazy - problem solve, find a solution and get on it.
You have a victim mentality - oh they don’t want me so there’s no point, il just moan about it instead.

Make a choice.

Probably varies company to company. Where I work has 30,000 UK employees, sending out every internal vacancy would be incredibly annoying. There’s a weekly update email with various things including a link to the internal jobs, but nothing individual.

100% correct. This moaner is not mature enough for a step up.

OP phone /email someone in HR now- say you are on AL and just seen this, would like to apply but can’t get to a computer to do this properly until this evening. You would be able to have your application in by 9pm tonight, would it be possible to get an extension tk the deadline? If you don’t ask, you don’t get. It may be it’s been done deliberately- it might just be someone else is going on holiday and wants to be able to review applications tomorrow morning so as long as yours is in before the morning that would be fine.

Ask now.

As a leader, do you think it’s reasonable to have such a small time frame for job applications?
People are encouraged to spend time on an application, this one hasn’t even gone over a weekend.

But why should job adverts have to take in account school holidays? If companies had to do that what about people on sick leave or on sabbaticals or on courses or business trips?

You still have time to make the application. Stop all the moaning about it’s unfair because it half term / Easter / Christmas/ summer/ whatever.

Yes they had someone in mind that wasn’t you, but you definitely won’t get it if you moan on mn rather than getting on with your application.

Straight on the phone to the vacancy holder, explain it's half term and ask if the date could be extended to allow parents the opportunity to apply. Also phone your line manager and ask them to make the same request.

This is absolutely not OK.

This. I agree that the way they have advertised this is a bit off. However if I was in your shoes, I’d make the time this afternoon and apply. If you don’t apply, you can’t complain if you don’t get it..

Because it's supposed to be about open and fair competition or even just about getting the best candidates with all staff able to put themselves forward.

Knowing when swathes of your staff are likely to be on leave - or even just basic examination of the annual leave patterns - matters.

Also, it's more likely that women will be the ones on leave for child care - absolutely arguable this sort of thing inadvertently becomes indirect sex discrimination by ensuring women (and often younger women at that) are being excluded from applying for these roles.

Not a good look.

The company has done nothing wrong. They've advertised the role and stated they are only accepting internal applications.
Companies don't run around people's holidays and other commitments.
If you really want it then get your application in before 6pm and quit moaning!

Just get on with it if you want the job - don't use your kids as an excuse!

I does sound rather unfair for the job to be posted whilst potential applicants aren’t at work and have no knowledge of the application deadline.
Apply anyway, you’ve nothing to lose and do email them to explain why your application is late in. Good luck.

Getting a job advert out is a lengthy process and unless it is a school then why should recruitment be restricted to term time only? Being on leave does not mean that recruitment sites cannot be accessed.

This! And not even just non-parents. I have kids at nursery and it only occurred to me that it was half term on Monday when my diary looked surprisingly empty!

Plus different areas have different half term weeks.

But you could use that argument for other employees who have time off as well.

where is the line drawn?

Can’t anyone do anything without fucking ChatGPT anymore? 🙄

Third. It shouldn’t take that long to do an application and you have the rest of the week on half term.

As others have said, prioritise the application and crack on.

It sucks that it seems it was not openly advertised to your team and the timing isn't ideal, but you have a choice here.

Youve seen the job posting so obviously had access to it.

If you want the job, stop complaining on MN and get applying. Can your kids not entertain themselves for an hour or do you have a friend or family member that could entertain them for an hour whilst you focus on it.

I presume the application window is short dated because they know they will have an influx of applications so just want to get it done and dusted quickly.

If it's a role you're familiar with an application shouldn't take hours. If you don't get it, you can always mention to the hiring manager that you put in a last minute application as you didn't see it until late and have they any feedback how your application might be improved had you more time to put into it.

Also, think of it this way - you want a job with more responsibility but you're sitting here on MN shifting blame around the place. Take the bull by the horns and apply!

Apply late, tell them why you're doin that and invite them to extend.

If, as is pretty much obvious, those of you off for half term are Mothers of young children there might be indirect discrimination.

Are you in a Union?

I disagree, “they obviously don’t want me” is a natural and reasonable reaction in the circumstances, and false positivity doesn’t change outcomes.

It depends on the application, surely. To apply for a new internal job at my work you submit your name and staff number, there’s no encouragement to take your time. All of the interviews and paperwork once you’ve passed the initial application process takes time, but not the application itself.